Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds Part III. Is It Finally Over?

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  1. Sickening crime.
    This man is a hero
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    Instead of making a run, he with danger to his own life, attacks one of the shooters
     
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  2. teammellieIRANfan

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    #277 teammellieIRANfan, Dec 14, 2025
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    Hero for not only risking his life and neutralizing one of the threats, but also for exercising a level of self restraint by not shooting the terrorist, when he got his hand on the rifle. Death would have been the easy way out for that vermin.
     
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  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    He didn’t say that.

    Why are you lying?
     
  4. Indeed, the urge to pull the trigger in that situation with testosteron levels peaking would be very hard to resist.
     
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  5. Robert Borden

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    Israel is trying to pin the attack on Iran. We're close to a round 2 between those 2
     
  6. News about the hero:
    Fruit seller Ahmed (43) from Sydney is 'true hero': 'I think many people are still alive thanks to his courage'
    He hid behind a car and when he knew that the shooter was looking the other way, he dived towards him. The man who managed to disarm one of the two shooters on Bondi Beach in Sydney on Sunday evening local time, is receiving worldwide praise. Thanks to him, many lives may have been saved.
    It concerns the 43-year-old fruit seller Ahmed al Ahmed from Sutherland, a district in the south of Sydney. He himself was injured in his action, his cousin tells 7News in Australia. Al Ahmed managed to take the shotgun and chase the terrorist away. He did not shoot himself, so the shooter was able to escape and return to his companion who was a little further away. He would have no experience with weapons.

    "He risked his own life to save that of countless others," says even Premier Chris Minns of New South Wales, the region to which Sydney belongs. "That man is a true hero. I think many, many people are still alive tonight, thanks to his courage."

    Shot in shoulder and hand
    It is clear that Al Ahmed, father of two children, put his own life at risk. He was hit by two bullets, his cousin tells Australian media. One ended up in his shoulder, another in his hand. It is not clear how he is doing. "He is in the hospital and we don't know exactly what is happening inside," says the man. "We hope he recovers. He is a hero, one hundred percent."


    From what I hear he's a Syrian immigrant.
     
  7. yasik19

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    Telling that this is your first post today. Very telling.
     
  8. yasik19

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    I think he's a Christian Maronite from Lebanon who has a popular store in the area....but I could be wrong.
     
  9. Ahmed al Ahmed is his name, which isnot christian maronite, nor will they give their sons a muslim name like Ahmed.

    But I could be wrong too.
     
  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Did too

    It's even worse than that. He conflated people chanting "free Palestine" at rallies with being anti Semitic. IOW what TrumpCo did to protestors at universities.

    Yelling "free Palestine" or being anti-Semite towards random Jewish people because "The IDF kills kids" or whatever won't accomplish anything.
     
  11. superdave

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    Did not.

    You’re pretty determined to lie about this, Herr Goebbels.
     
  12. Sufjan Guzan

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    Sad to see this type of violence escalate outside of the region. Taking the time to remind people that there is no room for anti-semitism or any other type of attack on the basis of color, national identity, etc.

    I'm gonna stay out of this one in terms of bigger implications. Senseless violence on the basis of national identity is always sad. Good on Ahmed for saving lives.
     
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  13. ceezmad

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    Congratulations on another successful globalization of the Intifada.
     
  14. Kryptonite

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    #289 Kryptonite, Dec 15, 2025
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    Are all Muslims shitbags because of the actions of 19 of them on 9/11? Are all Christians right-wing homophobic dickbags? Do all cops have secret meetings about which PoC to kill? Of course not. Unfortunately, a big part of society has a problem with separation.

    Society needs to separate the IDF from the local synagogue or temple. At last check, the IDF has killed close to 19k kids, possibly even more. There's Jewish people on our sports teams, driving our trains and buses, delivering our news, etc etc. Unless they've committed crimes, they're good people. Unfortunately, the day will probably never come when the average Jewish person condemns the IDF. I think this would go a long way. Hell, even the BLM leaders condemned the violence at their rallies, amirite?

    It seems to me that these Australian shooters couldn't do basic separation for whatever reason. Apparently it's just easier to lump all people in together. "Let me go shoot up a random bunch of Jewish people because....free Palestine? Screw the IDF?"

    With that said, let's also realize how many countries have condemned Hamas. And yet, there's people running around the internet saying how "Hamas are the good guys because the IDF kills kids" and how "the Zionist media wants you to believe they're the bad guys" or whatever.

    It's a damn shame these two groups can't figure out how to share this piece of land.
     
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  15. Kryptonite

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    #290 Kryptonite, Dec 15, 2025
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    Running around yelling "Free Palestine" and having protests and rallies... what is that going to accomplish? Awareness.

    Do it all you want until you're blue in the face, but it won't end anything. But hey, at least a few people got into trouble on college campuses...and for what? They were pissed that the colleges didn't stop funding Israel. It's now what, two years later and what changed?

    Hopefully they like their degrees though.

    As I said before:
     
  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I guess the alternative for young people, who tend to be passionate about such things as genocide, is to stuff their faces back in their iPhones and trudge off to class. Compliance is what elites depend on.
     
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  17. waitforit

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    I mean at this point in time it is. You can see it when Trump supporters do it but not now?

    Because there is no rally where people only shout "free Palestine" they also shout Globalize the intifada

    Globalize the intifada is a very dog whistle way of saying kill the jews

    You can't go the right is using dog whistles to do x or y then go lalalalalaalal can't hear you when it comes to people who hide behind "I actually mean zionist not jew" or "from the river to sea is peaceful" or we have no beef with jews only Israel/zionists



    Were these people pre-cogs who knew the people there were zionists.

    And here is the thing I just googled that I had no clue about the Amsterdam clashes

    I think I can google a new example every day of pro Palestinian people outright saying stuff HAMAS would be proud of
     
  18. yasik19

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    Nope, you're right. He's from Syria.
     
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  19. yasik19

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    It's even more complicated than separating actions for IDF from being Jewish or supporting Israel. Most Jewish people support Israel, or to be more correct, to believe in the right of Israel to exists (i.e. being a Zionist). But when the global propaganda shouts Zionism = Nazism and then throws everything Jewish related to every action of IDF or some bat shit settlers, it becomes very hard to not accuse "Free Palestine" crowd from being anti-Jewish. And obviously this doesn't mean that there aren't folks out there who simply want justice for Palestinians or against kids dying or whichever righteous cause there can be on a humanitarian level. But those opinions and voices are almost always drowned out by the more vocal "death to...." groups and chants of Intifada or whatever else is popular on TikTok that week. And at the end of the day, it's the tiny minority (Jews in the diaspora) that suffer. And of all races/religions/ethnicities/nationalities, it appears only Jews have to somehow feel like they need to justify their existence, their opinions on Palestine, their support for Israel or anything else. No other people are asked to do this, which on its own, is already a problem of gigantic ********ing proportions.
     
  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I think most Normals believe that if Israel had even a moderate government since the 10/7 attacks (or before), the horrors in Gaza would've never gone to this extreme. Bibi & friends have really put Israelis & Jews around the world in the uneviable position to have to defend Israel the country while also distancing itself from its lunatic leadership. It definitely sucks. Kinda what Americans have to do now actually.
     
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  21. bigredfutbol

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    #296 bigredfutbol, Dec 15, 2025
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    Nobody says Russia doesn't have the right to exist, despite the horrors of Chechnya and Ukraine. Nobody says China doesn't have the right to exist despite the genocide against the Uyghurs. FFS, after WW II & the Holocaust, we de-Nazified Germany, we didn't debate whether or not Germany had the right to exist.

    The problem with the rhetoric is that debates on the sins of the Israeli state are allowed to become a debate over whether or not Israel should even exist. And every Jew on the planet has their own existence put under scrutiny as well. I know of no other problematic regime in the world where criticism of the actions of the state morphs into criticism of the country itself.
     
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  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    I think only the nuttiest of critics don't believe in the right of Israel to exist (and Satmars IIRC). But if one can't protest or be upset at an ethnic cleansing (and the 10/7 attack of course) then why have political debates at all? And Americans as a whole are fairly tame in their criticism of the Israeli govt compared to other parts of the world.

    Now there will be debate about the rebuild and who should govern Gaza. But it's a complete mess ATM

    "The residents of Gaza have nowhere to return to. The world they knew and their daily lives are simply gone," says Adi Ben-Nun, director of the Hebrew University Geographic Information System Center. "The devastation is on every level, from homes that have been demolished to public institutions, workplaces, schools and agricultural lands – everything has been destroyed."

    In recent months, Ben-Nun has analyzed satellite images of Gaza using an algorithm to assess the scale of destruction. He estimates that around 160,000 buildings – about 70 percent of all structures in the Strip – have sustained severe damage (at least 25 percent are entirely destroyed), rendering them uninhabitable.

    https://www.haaretz.com/gaza/2025-0...-leveled/00000198-12de-d9c7-af98-7adffc8f0000
     
  23. This was what the deep throat from within the idf/israeli government with a conscience reported to the Dutch that that was the aim.
    The fokking complicit Rutte and his government decided to keep the lid on it, but we know of it because of a whistleblower, who leaked it to the NRC.
    The whole destruction was planned from the beginning and all the socalled "excuses" of hamas this or that were merely put up to give the EU governments lies for their inactivity.
    That memoandum in fact is the first document that has one of the aims of genocide, the turning of the land inhabitable for the survivors, documented.
    I'm pretty much sure it's in the ICJ data base as one of the documents for the charge against this bibi gang.
     
  24. Umar

    Umar Member+

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    And yet the israelis can openly say that Palestine shouldn’t exist as a state because of Hamas (and before that, Fatah, and before that, the PLO etc etc). In fact it is the state policy of israel to ensure that Palestine cannot exist.

    So all the pearl clutching about israel not existing as a state (it shouldn’t) is a bit hypocritical.
     
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  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Well in one sick way you can give Bibi credit for not pussyfooting about in regard to Palestinians this go round. He just said "we're going to make it impossible for you to even exist in Gaza by completely destroying your already poor AF land and making it completely uninhabitable"
     

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