Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

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  1. Wonder if our government would be eager to send in our war crimes forensic team we deployed to the Ukraine.
    https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nie...erug-na-onderzoek-oorlogsmisdaden-in-oekraine
    Forensic and investigative team back after investigation of war crimes in Ukraine
    News item | 25-11-2023 | 21:13
    The forensic and investigative team (FO team) has returned from Ukraine and has just landed at Eindhoven Air Base. The approximately 40-strong group included specialists from the military police. The team has been investigating possible war crimes for the past 6 weeks. This happened for the fourth time since May 2022, at the request of Ukraine
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    Probably not, given they tried to cover up they were informed about the true nature of the idf operations by the military attache.
     
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  2. Moishe

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    It can be now in this day and age but among us older Jews it’s simply a Yiddish word used as a descriptor for non Jews.
     
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  4. Belgian guy

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    Is the president of the ADL calling for the national guard to be brought it noteworthy enough or does he fall into the associate professor category?
     
  5. Moishe

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    Hopefully they’d be more effective than your peacekeeping forces.
     
  6. Belgian guy

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    Charlottesville was a far-right rally in which someone was murdered and 35 others were injured.

    This is an insane statement.
     
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  7. ???
    In what way can you support Catherinne Colonna is biased?
     
  8. Moishe

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    What is your impression of what is actually going on at Columbia?

    It these peoples actions have disrupted the university’s operations and has left a group fearing for their safety, what do you do? Columbia has pretty much admitted they’ve lost control of the situation

    If the roles were reversed and this was being done by a group of wingnuts and it was a group of Latinos, POC or Muslims, your position would be different. Try to finally be honest
     
  9. Moishe

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    This thread is a good start.

     
  10. Well, well.
    Why would anyone stoop to disparaging remarks?
    They got among others Radovan Karadzic convicted for war crimes.
     
  11. Belgian guy

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    Actually no I wouldn't.
    The thing I have issues with is the idea of using riot police or the national guard against student protestors. I don't understand why any American would be comfortable with it due to the tragic history attached to such a thing.
    I talked about this in another topic. Back in the late 1990s, during the first Verhofstadt government in Belgium, there was a disruptive student protest in Gent and some members of government were arguing to have the federal police clear them out. An idea which was vetoed by then PM Guy Verhofstadt. Arguing that he abhorred the idea and he would never allow riot police anywhere near student protestors as long as he was PM.
    Ideologically I wouldn't agree with him on much, but I always respected him for that.
     
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  12. TyffaneeSue

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    The word "goyim?" It just means "people/nation" and it appears in Jewish prayers. I most commonly use it in the phrase "a shonda for the goyim" meaning, essentially, that someone like Bernie Madoff or Jared Kushner has brought shame on our people.

    Also, I call my husband a goy, and he doesn't seem to mind, but then, he's married to me so you may question his judgment.
    I've supported them in the past, but now, no. In general they are well-intended, and they are Jewish. I know people who are involved, or who have family members involved with them, and it's really hard right now.
    I agree. But the fact is that the universities have lost control. Analyzing why that's happened -- well, that's a thread for another time.
     
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  13. I only see insinuations towards Catherinne Colonna.
     
  14. Moishe

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    Disprove them. Should be easy right?
     
  15. Moishe

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    Disruptive is an understatement. Does the remainder of the student body or faculty and staff get any consideration? They’ve been asked to stop and nothing they do on campus will change anything.
     
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    Perhaps I haven't looked in the right places, but I have yet to see concrete reports of what exactly is going on in terms of threats and language that have made Jewish students uncomfortable. Not saying it hasn't happened, just saying there seems to be poor reporting on it. I am sure there has been cases of individual harassment and aggressive language used as it typically happens in protests. Specially when there is a verbal confrontation between opposing sides as we all know things can rapidly escalate in terms of language. Also, not belittling the fear one feels, but fear for safety can be very subjective. When I go back to Brazil, I have no problems walking around and not feeling safe still knowing the crime rate is higher than where I live in the US. My mother on the other hand, watches a lot of news that talks about crime all the time so she believes ones chance of getting mugged or something worse happening is quite a bit higher than mine. Having said that, at the very least, I am sure many Jewish students at these Universities who support Israel are feeling at the very least an unwelcoming atmosphere.

    And I think everyone has the right to protest, but if other students are impeded from carrying on taking their classes, then that's obviously a problem. Their right to protest can't infringe on others right to move around campus and continue their education. That's definitely problem here with Columbia moving classes online and definitely a bigger problem if it isn't solved soon.
     
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  17. chad

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    You just have me on IL then, since I provided links.

    When protests that are ostensibly pro-Palestine start using language about Jews as an ethnic group, it is no longer a pro-Palestine protest. You cannot out of one side of your mouth say “we’re anti-Israeli policy, not Jews!” and out of the other single out Jews and tell Jews in the US to go back to Europe to places where we were massacred.
     
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  18. mebeSajid

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    Umm, the language that’s been used is horrific. Not clear how widespread it is, but damn: what’s being said to Jewish students is unconscionable.
     
  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    You married a shabbos goy? That's a smart move :D
     
  20. chad

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  21. chad

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    It’s shocking that at all of these institutions of privilege the protestors are not aware that Hamas is preventing the ceasefire.
     
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  22. mebeSajid

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    The basis of the Colonna report is that Israel hasn’t provided any evidence of UNRWA staff being linked to terrorist groups, despite UNRWA regularly supplying lists of its employees to Israel for vetting.

    And that Israel hasn’t provided any concerns about UNRWA staff since 2011.

    Accusations of bias from Hillel Neuer (!) don’t really move the needle.
     
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  24. chad

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    Imagine thinking that protesting the Israel-Hamas conflict was like protesting the Vietnam war.

    You’d have to be ignorant about two conflicts.

    By the way, my college-aged student told me that the prof had to cover the Vietnam war in an anthropology class for context since none of the students knew much about it.
     

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