I don't have a specific answer to your question, but a thought I had was to apply vocal message of what is expected of Hamas. Hamas seem to not care (at least not to the extent Israel has expected so far) about the pressure a military campaign can apply. They probably see Israel (and maybe US) as one entity who they are willing to "ignore" and continue their quest of controlling Gaza. Had Hamas seen/observed a global call to surrender, hostage release, etc.... and seen that happen by either unanimous global voice or one that goes beyond the typical parties, I believe it could or would go quite far. That's my assumption. If Hamas gathers that the world is united in wanting to see their oust, it paints quite a different message than what they are seeing now. All they see now is mass protests against Israel (just or unjust it doesn't matter), and nothing about Hamas. That's what I meant by my post above about a small portion of pressure to be applied on Hamas.
This isn’t true, and I know that because people keep posting links to the media here. This is a common right wing tactic here in the US. Wingnuts post a link to a CNN article and then say their pet grievance isn’t being covered in the media, and here’s a CNN link about the grievance to prove my point!
OK. Fair enough. i'll gladly admit I do not know the average positioning of the media in the United States.
"Last Wednesday, workers at a port in southern France (Marseille) searched a cargo ship headed for Haifa — and found it carried 19 pallets of machine-gun parts. They blocked the shipment, refusing to be complicit in Israel’s war crimes." https://jacobin.com/2025/06/france-dockers-weapons-shipments-israel Kuddos to them. On the other hand, the fact that France continues to manufacture and sell weapons to Israel is absolutely astounding and scandalous.
Did you forget how France dodged the ban of delivering a warship to Israel decades ago? It was sold as a daring action of israeli special forces, kidnapping it from the harbour in France. It was a mistery that not one member of the forces normally present to protect that military harbour was on duty that day AND and that the ship misteriously all of a sudden was fully supplied with fuel, water and food.
Yes I am, but this story seems to be forgotten, or to be completely passed under the radars, for whatever reason and as strange as it may seem!
There will be no outrage, there will be no protests. I also checked BBC and CNN home page and didn't see this. https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-...st-5-local-staffers-possibly-abducted-others/ The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation said Wednesday that Hamas gunmen attacked a bus transporting its local Gazan staffers, killing at least five, injuring others and potentially taking some hostage. On Thursday, it updated the death toll of its “local team members and volunteers” to eight and reiterated its “fear that some of our team members have been taken hostage.”
They have articles, it's just not on the main page. On CNN is in the world section. https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/11/middleeast/israel-gaza-ghf-attack-hnk-latam-intl
Precisely the point. When Hamas reports some event that hasn't been verified by anyone, all the worlds newspapers publish the story in their headlines. It's been like this since Day 1.
What this guys said. Just devastating. Absolute evil. These dear people were murdered by Hamas because they just wanted to feed their people. They were not militants. They were humanitarians, many of them young people.The people of Gaza have always been the first victim of Hamas and if Hamas… https://t.co/q7yyYuBmeE— Rev. Johnnie Moore ن (@JohnnieM) June 12, 2025
Very peculiar why the mainstream media is so eager to believe everything Hamas says and report as essentially fact without independent verification.
It's not peculiar, it's irresponsible to say the least. I understand it''s not easy when Israel doesn't allow journalists in Gaza and that creates a lot of questions and enigmas surrounding events, but the fact that so many news outlets just run with whatever comes out of Hamas propaganda machine is outrageous.
The media have done the Gazans (and the world) a terrible disservice by inverting the narrative. Hamas cares nothing about the people they allegedly govern; the media should be supporting Israel's efforts to eliminate the Hamas stranglehold over the people of Gaza. Instead, we live in a world where the UN is condemning the GHF, a Palestinian aid organization. Very sad.
Yeah I guess those ungrateful Gazans themselves should thank Israel for eliminating the Hamas and bring them freedom.
I expect they will wait to express their gratitude until Hamas is gone, and the threat of being beheaded by Hamas for supporting Israel is no longer a very real issue.
There will be no Gaza and no Gaza people anymore when it happens (assuming it's even possible to remove Hamas from Gaza's society, as if it was a foreign object).
israelis still shooting and killing desperate starving people after first telling them to collect aid at specified checkpoints: Israeli forces kill 51 Palestinians waiting for flour at Gaza aid site, witnesses and rescuers say https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74zj9kv2xjo
War criminal Netanyahu managed to divert the world’s attention with his operation in Iran, precisely when world opinion was beginning to be moved by the massacres committed in Gaza. He achieved his goal: the massacres continue with impunity.
I have said it from the very start. If you want the best for Gaza civilians then you want Hamas removed from power.