Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

Of course it was a Blue Skyer who shot some Jews dead.

 

Not at all, my post was not specifically directed at you. I meant in a general way.

 

Per NY Times, Trump sees Benjamin Netanyahu for what he is: a weak leader with nothing to offer

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/opinion/trump-netanyahu-israel.html

 

An israeli air strike on Gaza hit the home of a doctor and killed nine of her 10 children, the hospital where she works in the city of Khan Younis says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0eq9lq7xr1o

 

how people reconcile this news with the words of Netanyahu.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7804k13x52o

How many more innocent Gazans have to die?.

 

Good. Maybe we'll finally see some sanctions.

 

The international community should be sanctioning Israel.

Here's former Israeli-PM Ehud Olmert (who opposed Oslo and is pro-settlement), stating what's been obvious for a year:

https://t.co/XOPpB4AeFw


Key quotes:

"What we are doing in Gaza is a war of extermination: indiscriminate, unrestrained, brutal, and criminal killing of civilians."

"We are doing this not because of an accidental loss of control ..., but as a result of a policy dictated by the government"

 

Literally what I said, but sure.

 

Freeing the hostages is literally at the bottom of our military objectives now, we've openly stated we endorse Trump's plans for Gaza (i.e. full-blown ethnic cleansing, as if that weren't clear), and have only now narrowly paused starving every single person in the Strip after a 70+ day siege.

But sure, let's continue to pretend it is Hamas who are the primary culprits here. (Even as more and more current and former politicians make it seem Hamas is positively tangential to our current actions. Not that this one in particular ever truly mattered much.)

 

israel holds 5.3 million hostages who it should free, now. Let them have their land back, let them live free lives. It could end the war now by withdrawing from Palestinian Territories that it puts under a brutal
military occupation, it would have immediate peace treaties with the Palestinians, Saudi Arabia, the gulf states etc.

But sure, let’s pretend Hamas holding on to 20 or so israeli soldiers is the key to ending this conflict.

 

I did a dive into their website.They seem to be revolutionary leftists. I was unsuccessful in seeing whether they had a starting 5 for a basketball team.

 

You are not a good human being...Truly soulless. I won't say more...

 

Bibi's survival is tied to a permanent war, either with Gaza, Iran or even Syria.....In addition to that, the far right fundamentalists ghouls in his cabinet have their own agenda to chase the Palestinians out of Gaza. Here you have a perfect confluence of criminal and expansionist interests.

 

Gaza is Treblinka. Gaza is Sobibor. Gaza is Auschwitz. Gaza is Buchenwald. Gaza is Dachau. As many other posters have noted Palestinians (like the Native Americans and the Jewish people) have been forced into living in Gaza as their land was stolen for similar reasons.

There is no negotiation with a force that has cornered you and holds all the cards in the form of the full backing of the predominant Empire on the planet directed right at you. Palestine has no Air Force. Palestine has no standing army. Palestine has no self-governance. Hamas attempted to reach peace with the US backed Ceasefire that was sabotaged and broken by Israel. Just like the Native Americans who signed treaty after treaty who's terms have not been kept, the Palestinian people have never won anything through negotiation but brief respites from the ultimate goal-->removing them from their land so that Israeli settlers can come in. If this was about the hostages why has Israel been waging war on Syria? Why has Israel been waging war on Lebanon? Why do they threaten war with Iran? If Hamas taking hostages on October 7th justifies what Israel has done by your own logic Hamas was fully justified in its actions on October 7th as Israel has kept millions in captivity in Gaza down to the calories allowed in. Israel had thousands of Palestinians confined in their prison system without due process before October 7th.

Any moral high ground that Israel attempts to stand on is built on a legacy of Apartheid, stolen land, and the bodies/souls of children and women. This is a Genocide. It's real. It's been happening.

 

When you meet someone's argument with insults that usually means that you are losing the moral argument. Nice ad hominem. There are many around the world that do agree with me. Plenty are calling this the genocide that it is. No amount of insults you can hurl will change the utter devastation that Israel is inflicting on the Palestinian people. It is sick. It is disgusting.

Israel has been denying humanitarian shipments from coming in and babies are starving because their malnourished mothers can't feed them. You stand on the side of barbarism.

 

Not only are they stopping all supplies coming in, they are also deliberately bombing vegetable stalls, bakeries, farms, shops and community kitchens. All elements of the food supply chain are being destroyed.

https://aje.io/hhjoek

The aim is starvation of the civilian population as a weapon of war - it’s pretty clear to every independent observer.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)01018-9/fulltext

And it’s not just food. Healthcare, medicine, education, housing stock. All are being deliberately targeted. There’s thousands of examples of this.

What do you call it when you try to destroy the ability of a people to feed, house, heal, educate themselves?

 

You can't compare anything to TrebIinka, whose name should not be spoken lightly. And yes, I'm aware Israel commits war crimes, crimes against humanity and perhaps a genocide.

 

So, what? There's a rank ordering of Nazi concentration camps?

I don't think I can parse the evil so.