Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

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  1. bigredfutbol

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    #5876 bigredfutbol, Oct 3, 2024
    The Bosnian War opened my eyes to how absolutely useless the UN is.
     
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  2. Moishe

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    #5877 Moishe, Oct 3, 2024
    I’ve been banging that drum for decades with the Bosnian War as my A exhibit.
     
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  3. bigredfutbol

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    #5878 bigredfutbol, Oct 3, 2024
    Stories about UN "Peacekeepers" pointing spotlights at unarmed Bosnian civilians making a run for it across the Sarajevo airport, allowing Serb snipers to pick them off at will, still anger me. The smug amorality behind their actions shook me, hard.
     
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  4. DoyleG

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  6. yasik19

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    #5881 yasik19, Oct 3, 2024
    Saw that last night as well. He was exchanged in the Gilad Shalit deal, along with Simwar.
     
  7. DoyleG

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    #5882 DoyleG, Oct 3, 2024
    One only hopes
     
  8. DoyleG

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    #5885 waitforit, Oct 6, 2024
  11. rslfanboy

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    #5886 rslfanboy, Oct 6, 2024
    They’re OK at some stuff, but when it comes to policing/peacekeeping/conflict resolution, yes. Largely useless.

    Which is sad because that was ostensibly the whole point.
     
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  12. bigredfutbol

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    #5887 bigredfutbol, Oct 6, 2024
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    Sure--it's a big organization and some agencies are better than others. I hold the Security Council largely in contempt, but I'm somebody who wants to see the UN reformed, not destroyed.

    The UNHCR (UN High Commissioner for Refugees) was also on the ground in Bosnia during the war, and didn't share in the disgrace that was UNPROFOR or the Security Council's oversight.
     
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  13. yasik19

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    #5888 yasik19, Oct 7, 2024
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    1 year anniversary of the horrific attack. Needless to say, it's been a depressing year.
     
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  14. Quakes05

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    #5889 Quakes05, Oct 7, 2024
    No doubt, still close to 100 hostages whose condition we have no idea about, but if alive, their ordeals have been unimaginable. The families of 10/7 victims, all still grieving, same with thousands of families across Gaza and Lebanon. Gaza lies in ruins, 43,000 dead, everyone sleeping outdoors, humanitarian crisis as far as the eye can see, Hamas still fighting, Sinwar still alive...nothing really resolved for the long term

    Lebanon, on its way to looking like Gaza. Hezbollah utterly decimated, from exploding pagers to a bunker buster bomb finding Nasrallah...wow.

    I hope Israel can step back, reevaluate and reassess the situation, maybe even consider a little diplomacy. Instead, we're all still holding our breath, waiting to see if Israel will attack Iran, directly...

    ...I hope not. After 365 days of all-out war against its neighbors it would be nice to see a little pulling back from the brink.
     
  15. Val1

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    #5890 Val1, Oct 7, 2024
    It is. It's also my son's birthday. He asked me and the wife specifically not to celebrate his birthday.

    I just translated you sig. And that's pretty f*cking painful, too. I am sorry.
     
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  16. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #5891 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 7, 2024
    Today at noon the funeral for my far too young died nephew started.
    Noon on the first monday of the month is a special occasion in the Netherlands.
    All the sirens in the country start howling.
    That sound at that very moment not only brought tears in my eyes for my nephew, but the sound also was a fitting reminder of what happened exactly a year ago. As I mourned my nephew, my thoughts were too with those who mourned the loss of loved ones a year later and those still waiting for the return of the captured ones.
     
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  17. yasik19

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    #5892 yasik19, Oct 7, 2024
    Happy Birthday to your boy!
     
  18. TyffaneeSue

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    #5893 TyffaneeSue, Oct 7, 2024
    In Beverly Hills (which has a high percentage of Jews and a Jewish mayor) there's a commemorative installation in a public park.
    BeverlyHillsFlag.png

    1400 flags representing people who were murdered, most Israeli, others from dozens of countries, including 39 US citizens. https://www.beverlyhills.org/1448/Flag-Art-Installation

    As I walked around it, I heard a woman saying to someone on her phone "maybe everybody doesn't hate us." It made me want to cry.

    Lots of Rosh Hashanah sermons this year on the topic of hope, but hard to feel hopeful given the nightmare of the last year.
     
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  19. feyenoordsoccerfan

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    #5894 feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 7, 2024
    https://www.hartvannederland.nl/het...tijnse-voetbalvrienden-geven-samen-gastlessen
    use google translate if interested in the rest of the article
    On the field and in the classroom: Jewish Jules and Palestinian Mahmoud build bridge for more understanding
    Personal stories Today, 22:39 - Update: 10 minutes ago
    Mahmoud and Jules have been playing football together for a long time in the same recreational team. Mahmoud is Palestinian, Jules is of Jewish descent. After the events of October 7, that could have become – as happened to many people – a sensitive issue between the two. But instead, they decided to talk to each other. They understand each other's points of view and are now trying to convey them to young people. They give guest lectures at secondary schools in Enkhuizen.
     
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  20. Potowmack

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    #5895 Potowmack, Oct 7, 2024
    That is just bizarre.
     
  21. The Irish Rover

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    #5896 The Irish Rover, Oct 8, 2024
    From Axios' Barak Ravid (ex-Unit 8200)
     
  22. celito

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    #5897 celito, Oct 8, 2024
    Don't think I've seen it mentioned here, but the latest Caspian Report piece mentions Israel's intent in Gaza after this is done could be to divide it with 3-5 corridors with watch towers and forces to maintain security. One is already set for the war (Netzarim Corridor). They are apparently clearing the land on the south for another corridor. Pretty crazy stuff.
     
  23. yasik19

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    #5898 yasik19, Oct 8, 2024
    I'm still astounded by how hateful some people are in the pro-Palestine protests. I've only seen with my own eyes some of the stuff written in chalk on Mission St in San Francisco and some of Jewish owned restaurants/cafes, and to do so on 10/7 is just so reprehensible. Of course then it's hard to look at social media as it never gives a full story, but again, even if it's a minority, the majority remains silent. So much hate.
     
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  24. The Irish Rover

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    #5899 The Irish Rover, Oct 8, 2024
    There is zero - repeat, zero - chance that girl was there and Hams intel didn't find out about it.

    That they did nothing says it all
     
  25. The Irish Rover

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    #5900 The Irish Rover, Oct 8, 2024
    @yasik19 @M Why do you care so much about what Antonio Gutierres says about anything?

    It's not as if anyone else does.
     
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