Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

She's previously argued that a blockade is an act of war, in the context of justifying Israel's attacks in 1956/1967. So under her definition, either Gaza is occupied or Israel has waged war on Gaza for 18 years by blockading it.

 

She preaches "western exceptionalism" - she's won't understand any of the points you're making

 

Egypt is occupying Gaza

 

There's a difference between closing one side's borders and blocking everything that's going in and out.

Your response to "Israel maintains control over the sea and the air and every land crossing but one" is "BUT EGYPT" and it's not at all credible.

 

Please point out where Egypt is doing any of the bolded activities below:

“[t]he facts since the 2005 disengagement, among them the continuous patrolling of the territorial sea adjacent to Gaza by the Israeli Navy and constant surveillance flights of IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] aircraft, in particular remotely piloted aircraft, demonstrate the continued exclusive control by Israel of Gaza’s airspace and maritime areas which — with the exception of limited fishing activities — Palestinians are not allowed to use. Since 2000, the IDF has also continuously enforced a no-go zone of varying width inside Gaza along the Green Line fence. Even in periods during which no active hostilities are occurring, the IDF regularly conducts operations in that zone, such as land levelling. Israel regulates the local monetary market, which is based on the Israeli currency and has controls on the custom duties. Under the Gaza Reconstruction Mechanism, Israel continues to exert a high degree of control over the construction industry in Gaza. Drawings of large scale public and private sector projects, as well as the planned quantities of construction material required, must be approved by the Government of Israel. Israel also controls the Palestinian population registry, which is common to both the West Bank and Gaza, and Palestinian ID-cards can only be issued or modified with Israeli approval. Israel also regulates all crossings allowing access to and from Gaza. While it is true that the Rafah crossing is governed by Egypt, Israel still exercises a large degree of control, as only Palestinians holding passports are allowed to cross, and passports can only be issued to people featuring on the Israeli generated population registry.” (“Report of the detailed findings of the independent commission of inquiry established pursuant to Human Rights Council resolution S-21/1”, UN doc. A/HRC/29/CRP.4 (24 June 2015), para. 29.)

 

What's going on?

 

And yet... unles you'll accuse him to be "antisemitic"

As a former IDF soldier and historian of genocide, I was deeply disturbed by my recent visit to Israel
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov

"[Israel has adopted a] logic of endless violence, a logic that allows one to destroy entire populations and to feel totally justified in doing so. It is a logic of victimhood – we must kill them before they kill us, as they did before – and nothing empowers violence more than a righteous sense of victimhood. Look at what happened to us in 1918, German soldiers said in 1942, recalling the propagandistic “stab-in-the-back” myth, which attributed Germany’s catastrophic defeat in the first world war to Jewish and communist treason. Look at what happened to us in the Holocaust, when we trusted that others would come to our rescue, IDF troops say in 2024, thereby giving themselves licence for indiscriminate destruction based on a false analogy between Hamas and the Nazis...

I told [some Zionist students] the story of how, in 1930, the German student union was democratically taken over by the Nazis. The students of that time felt betrayed by the loss of the first world war, the loss of opportunity because of the economic crisis, and the loss of land and prestige in the wake of the humiliating peace treaty of Versailles. They wanted to make Germany great again, and Hitler seemed able to fulfil that promise. Germany’s internal enemies were put away, its economy flourished, other nations feared it again, and then it went to war, conquered Europe and murdered millions of people. Finally, the country was utterly destroyed. I wondered aloud whether perhaps the few German students who survived those 15 years regretted their decision in 1930 to support nazism. But I do not think the young men and women at BGU understood the implications of what I had told them...

By the time I travelled to Israel, I had become convinced that at least since the attack by the IDF on Rafah on 6 May 2024, it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions. It was not just that this attack against the last concentration of Gazans – most of them displaced already several times by the IDF, which now once again pushed them to a so-called safe zone – demonstrated a total disregard of any humanitarian standards. It also clearly indicated that the ultimate goal of this entire undertaking from the very beginning had been to make the entire Gaza Strip uninhabitable, and to debilitate its population to such a degree that it would either die out or seek all possible options to flee the territory. In other words, the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”."

 

"Newborn twins were killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza while their father was at a local government office to register their birth.
Asser, a boy, and Ayssel, a girl, were just four days old when their father Mohammed Abu al-Qumsan went to collect their birth certificates.
While he was away, his neighbours called to say their home in Deir al Balah had been bombed.
The strike also killed his wife and the twins' grandmother."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c985y78d0g1o

 

IDF units have used random Palestinians in Gaza as human shields, @haaretzcom reports. “Our lives are more important," soldiers were told. ‘The thinking is that it's better for Israeli soldiers to remain alive & for [Palestinians] to be the ones blown up.’ https://t.co/Uou4MCVUfw

— Louisa Loveluck (@leloveluck) August 14, 2024

 

It's even worse than it looks:

🎯This was how precise Israel was when it killed two 4 day old twins and their mother and grandmother👇 they know exactly who they are killing & what they are destroying at all times. https://t.co/komWmfCkRf pic.twitter.com/nf4MVVzMn0

— Samira Mohyeddin سمیرا (@SMohyeddin) August 13, 2024

 

Those "questions" are beyond laughable. Even the worst criminal defense lawyer imaginable wouldn't raise those kinds of questions in an attempt to create reasonable doubt.

 

‘Raped by female soldiers’: Palestinian in leaked Sde Teiman photo speaks out
The man in the famous photo, Ibrahim Salem, spent eight months in Israeli detention, where rape, electrocution and beatings were routine


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/...alestinian-leaked-sde-teiman-photo-speaks-out

 

South Korea not happy with Israel bombing schools

.@ROK_Mission Amb Hwang: "This was #Israel's 8th bombing of a school sheltering civilians so far in August alone. We are all aware that civilian infrastructure should not be targeted, this is all the moreso when those schools are being used as shelters for desperate civilians who… pic.twitter.com/xubqCPh54k

— Rami Ayari (@Raminho) August 13, 2024

 

seriously this must be the saddest thread in the history of threads.

 

I think they should write "It's never Israel's fault" and be done with it.

 

But Hamas does it so it's ok.

 

israeli settlers carry out yet another pogrom in the occupied West Bank, killing one person:

Village set ablaze in West Bank - as Israeli settlers torch homes with families inside: https://news.sky.com/story/masked-i...bombs-in-attack-on-west-bank-village-13197674

 

The only thing hama's worse in than the settleridf combo is that they murder their own people to stay in power, but that difference is just a matter of time to end in the bin.