Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

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  1. TyffaneeSue

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    Whenever there's an attack in Gaza, Hamas immediately announces that many people, generally only women and children, have died. Whereas Israel reports that this was a carefully scoped out operation and that a limited number, all militants, were killed. Don't you want to try to figure out which version is accurate, or if the truth is somewhere in the middle?
     
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  2. Robert Borden

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    That won't erase the fact that tens of thousands have died already, mostly women and children. Arguing that we're off by a few hundreds (who gives a f) doesn't change the barbaric genocidal nature of these strikes.
     
  3. Potowmack

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    I love seeing you cheer for Assad. At least you’re consistent.
     
  4. Robert Borden

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    It wasn't my intend to traumatize you with news you don't like to hear. BTW, why is the US still illegally occupying that country again?
     
  5. Potowmack

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    I’m not traumatized. I’m just tickled pink by your consistent knob polishing of dictators and authoritarians.
     
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  6. TyffaneeSue

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    Of course it's mostly women and children! Because somehow it's okay to kill men, according to Hamas, but not women or children? Weird logic. Or maybe it's that the men know all the good hiding places and won't let the women/children in because...oh, I don't know, because they're Hamas, and they don't mind running up the body count.

    Anyway, the numbers are off by more than a few hundred. Whenever you heard a death count, it's probably closer to 10% of the number announced by Hamas. Unless everyone in Gaza has already died, in which case, who's continuing to bomb Israel?
     
  7. Robert Borden

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    Do you want to discuss the dictators and authoritarian regimes that the US have supported and funded in the past decades or you want to keep up the pretense that the US is the only force for good in this world?;)
     
  8. Robert Borden

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    Sources?
     
  9. Potowmack

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    Oh, look, Russian-style whataboutism. You’re nothing if not predictable.
     
  10. Robert Borden

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    Deflection? Ok, do your research and we'll talk
     
  11. Potowmack

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    The fact that US foreign policy was messed up doesn’t change that you have a disturbing love for leaders who murder their own people. So long as they’re anti-US, are their actions copacetic with you?
     
  12. Robert Borden

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    Like yours who's enabling and assisting in a genocide as we speak? What about the war on terror aiming at removing Sadam (supported initially by the US) same for the former freedom fighters aka Talibans?

    Dude...You're funnnnny
     
  13. Potowmack

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    Just tell the class about one dictator who doesn’t make you get all weak in the knees. Just one is all it takes.

    You may be from Canada, but you just have skipped the day when they explained Canadian values in school.
     
  14. Robert Borden

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    As someone with South America roots, I find it hilarious that you're lecturing me on supporting dictators who kill their own people when the US have a bloody history of installing dictators in Central and South America who murdered thousands of their own people with the rubber stamp from Washington.

    It's ok though the world is changing, maybe you'll eventually join the rest of us.

    Canadians values? Lol
     
  15. Potowmack

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    Just tell us about one dictator who doesn’t make you get all weak in the knees. Just one is all it takes.
     
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  16. Robert Borden

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    :cool: keep drinking the kool aid my friend :thumbsup:

    The whole "if you're not with me, you're against me" rhetoric...ah the Bush years...

    Disagreeing with US foreign policy doesn't mean someone loves dictators, but if that's what they're teaching you at school - I ain't going to change your mind
     
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  17. Potowmack

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    Just tell the class about one dictator who doesn’t make you get all weak in the knees. Just one is all it takes.
     
  18. Robert Borden

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    Oh...I can feel your anger young one. How dare people criticize US foreign policy... Don't take it so personally ;)
     
  19. Robert Borden

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    The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) has officially published notice of the revocation of the charitable status of two organizations that can no longer issue tax receipts. The JNF has funded projects on Israeli military bases, in illegal settlements, and on top of destroyed Palestinian villages.
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  20. mebeSajid

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    You cannot possibly be this stupid
     
  21. Umar

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    I’m afraid she probably is
     
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  22. yasik19

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    How it was.


    How everyone else reports it.


    And then you have to dig deep too see this.
    The BBC cannot independently verify casualty figures from either side.


    Yet, they run with the headlines of what Hamas provides. Simply stunning.
     
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  23. M

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    Who is this list from? And how do we know it’s a complete list of those that were killed? The BBC report that you are mocking also notes that the hospital head said identifying some of the dead was difficult as they were so disfigured.
     
  24. yasik19

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    It says who the list is from in that tweet.

    And the point you're so clearly and willfully missing (not sure to what end) is how MSM reports things coming out of Gaza. They literally take the numbers that Gaza Health Ministry reports (often times w/in minutes of any strike), run those numbers in the headlines (b/c you know, sensations sells), and then write that they can't verify shit. So if they can't verify, why are they running with those headlines?
     
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  25. Umar

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    There is a simple thing israel could do to ensure the BBC can verify stories coming out of Gaza directly.

    Why haven’t they done it yet?

    israel are an unashamed murderous regime going out of their way to target schools and hospitals, and no amount of bootlicking will hide that for you.
     
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