Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

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  1. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
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    Yes, which is why israel was hauled before the court for genocide in 2008 and 2014 etc etc.
     
  2. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    And Hamas continued to lob rockets into Israel then hide.


    Rinse, repeat.
     
  3. yasik19

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    Chelsea
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    There has been numerous sentiments that have basically expressed that as much as Iron Dome has saved countless lives, it has also made Israel's wars "unfair." Even if 5% of all of the rockets have landed in residential areas of Israel that Hamas/Hezbollah has launched over the last decade or so, the argument that Israel would have every given right to basically destroy their enemies. But b/c the damage has been far less harmful, nobody seems to give a shit. It's a bizarre world we live in where shutting down rockets on a daily basis basically gets overlooked and excused.
     
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  4. Robert Borden

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    Israel’s escalating use of torture against Palestinians in custody a preventable crime against humanity: UN experts
    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...5yVZuMh9WWhRz6pDbc_aem_NnzLqQkgrNAnsJ8TcoUxgA

    - Gang rape
    - Genital electrocution
    - Suspension from ceilings
    - Tied to beds blindfolded and in diapers
    - Stripped naked
    - Attacks by dogs
    - Waterboarding
    - Blackmail
    - Cigarette burns
    - Loud music played until their ears bleed
    - Deprived of adequate healthcare, food, water and sleep
     
  5. ElNaranja

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    Man....sounds like they spent time at Guantanamo and took some detailed notes and cranked it up another notch.
     
  6. Robert Borden

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  7. Robert Borden

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  8. Is that true?
    One of the 3 reasons Iran wants (already sneakily has?) nukes is that Sunni Pakistan has them.
    I was wondering when and in what way Pakistan would get involved, but I didnot anticipate this move.
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

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    I hope for Israel's sake that it isn't true. If they keep this up with starting fires in the region, all they are accomplishing is slowly uniting the Muslim world to take action against them - doing it via proxy does somewhat provide a cover for them like the Russians while arguing that they aren't a party to that war if it came to that. They'd be taking a page from NATO's book who argue that they aren't a party to the war in Ukraine despite arming them.
     
  10. Robert Borden

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    Doesnot look as a country you want your enemy to be supported by.
     
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  12. yasik19

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  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

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    The most "moral army in the world"
     
  14. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
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    There are no morals in war.

    You keep building these strawmen to blow down but you only blow one direction.
     
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  15. Umar

    Umar Member+

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    Not for israel and its supporters, no.

    Everyone else can see what is right and what is not.
     
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  16. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

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    Point the finger at Netanyahu who was the one saying that - not me
     
  17. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    So it’s morally acceptable to murder kids at a concert?
     
  18. Umar

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    I’m not the one here justifying killing kids.

    1. The killing of kids at the concert was a clear war crime.

    2. israel commits far more war crimes than Hamas.
     
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  19. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    Not wearing identifiable uniforms is also a war crime. What’s Hamas’ uniform look like?

    Stop acting like one side has moral superiority over the other.
     
  20. Umar

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    what uniform are these idf soldiers wearing? Both of these people, including the person dressed up as a lady on the left, are israelis going to bravely kill unarmed people in hospital beds in the West Bank .

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/hospital-raid-video-offer-rare-glimpse-into-undercover-israeli-unit/

    One side may not be better than the other, but one side is clearly worse.
     
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  21. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    Does that sentence make sense in your head?
     
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  22. Umar

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    Yes it does.

    “Better” implies some good present in one of the parties. Worse doesn’t require any redeeming qualities to be present in either party.

    israel is clearly worse than Hamas by any objective metric you use. Numbers killed, numbers of crimes committed, number of genocides attempted, years of illegal military occupation regimes established, areas of land illegally occupied, number of famines attempted, number of hospitals destroyed, number of schools bombed….
     
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  23. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
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    Only because of military superiority.

    If Hamas had the capabilities Israel does, there wouldn’t be any Jews left.

    So your sentence still makes no sense.
     
  24. Umar

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    If…

    But…
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    Jul 23, 2004
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    The allegation here is that prisoners are being raped in a prison camp. That isn't in a 'war' context?

    If these allegations are true, it seems beyond horrific to me.
     
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