Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

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  1. rslfanboy

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  2. waitforit

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    And if it happens promise to never post in this topic never again? Like so there would be consequence of being wrong for a change?

    Why the hell is it so hard for some of you to not find excuses for terrorist organizations?

    I am looking forward to seeing you lot justifying Hezbollah's actions without using the word open air prison for a change
     
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  3. As well as those condemnations of the Gaza bombings by the idf.


    To spell it out for you:"you have condemnations, which I call are in most cases just lipservice with the message ...naughty naughty .. don't do it.
    Sanctions are the teeth of condemnations as these in an escalating way can be ratched up to hurt the sanctioned party in several ways.

    Well, the bias that really matters is the one that empowers one of the parties by supplying them with the means to destroy as the score is now
    Gaza for over 50% is reduced to an inhabtable status.
    Which one do you prefer? The one you talk about or the one that makes it possible to massacre people like we have seen in the last 8.5 months?
     
  4. Moishe

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    Both Russia and Iran have been on the receiving end of significant sanctions. When all is said and done, neither are really effected by them to bring a cessation of their bullshit.

    You don’t know what bias is do you?
     
  5. I wouldnot claim "not really being effected", but cessation of their bullshit isnot the primary goal, but making it harder and at a higher price to continue.
    You do realize the next step in "condemnation"=>"sanctions"=> ... is military action?

    You do know there are biases that hurt feelings and biases that hit you in the way you live or even get you killed, do you?
     
  6. Moishe

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    Word salad with extra dressing
     
  7. The typical response of someone not liking what he reads, but without arguments to refute it.
     
  8. Moishe

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    I would refute your argument if it was cohesive and worth a damn.
     
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  9. deejay

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    From a geo-political perspective, I expect Hezbollah to continue and even intensify their attacks. Currently, Lebanon is at a political impasse and Hezbollah can rely on Syria to provide them weaponry. Israel will have a difficult time since showing either weakness or too strong a hand will have political consequences in Lebanon.
     
  10. mebeSajid

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    Why do you lot keep thinking the people on the other side are not human and don't have their own constraints and incentives?

    It certainly doesn't seem like Hezbollah has much interest in a war with Israel - they certainly have the ability to do far more harm than they've attempted to do so far which, prior to last week, wasn't much more than underpowered rockets launched into empty fields.

    But they have to respond when Israel carries out an assassination of a senior commander. You seem utterly incapable of grasping that Israel's actions also have consequences.
     
  11. mebeSajid

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    I disagree with this take - it doesn't appear that Hezbollah wants war, but also can't appear to be seen as weak.
     
  12. deejay

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    Well, that's my point. Israel can't declare war and has very limited political leeway to increase their attacks. Hezbollah can just continue being a thorn in their side.
     
  13. Robert Borden

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    LOL
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  14. TyffaneeSue

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    There's a wall/fence between the US and Mexico too. Where is the open air prison, and is it California or Texas?
     
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  15. Robert Borden

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    sigh.... Can't make this up. Stay in la la land!
     
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  16. Moishe

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    Mahmoud Abbas supports Egypts right to erect their intensive border wall system that cuts off Gaza. Weird that standard. Having a protective border against Palestinians trying to kill them doesn’t make it an open air prison
     
  17. Umar

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    Blocking people from israel going to Gaza, or vice versa, is acceptable conduct from the israelis. Any country is entitled to close its own borders to foreigners.

    Controlling any other citizens going to Gaza (and shooting them dead if they try without your permission) and preventing Gazans from going to third party countries without your permission? That’s an open air prison I’m afraid.

    It’s sad you don’t see that.
     
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  18. Gsus, one must be completely detached from reality to make this comparison....and rep it.
     
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  19. Moishe

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    So Egypt allows Palestinians across their highly enhanced wall. Good to know
     
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  20. What part of not making possible the ethnic cleansing of Gaza eludes you...
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    Posted your signature response and repper for you so you don't have to bother:whistling:
     
  21. mebeSajid

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    I find it fascinating that you all deliberately ignore the naval blockade.

    If I recall correctly, you’ve previously argued that a naval blockade is an act of war.
     
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  22. Umar

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    What are you blabbering on about?

    Egypt blocks Gazans from going to Egypt without an Egyptian visa. They are entitled to do that. They can build whatever wall they like on their side or on the boundary.

    israel can block Gazans from going to israel. They are entitled to do that too. Amazing that they can be held to the same standards, right?!

    What israel is actually doing though is blocking Gazans from going to Australia, Brazil, China, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Honduras, India, Japan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Micronesia, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Romania, Switzerland, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, West Bank, Yemen, Zimbabwe etc without an israeli permit.

    That’s a prison.
     
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  23. Robert Borden

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    On what planet do you live? You really don't see them as human beings do you... if this was done to Israelis you'd be rightfully outraged, everyone would. That view is frankly disturbing
     
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  24. ceezmad

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  25. ElNaranja

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    Texas if you must know. There are several and hold thousands of people in appalling conditions that violate just about every right and treaty we've signed regarding refugees, immigration, and what not.

    But, thanks for asking. Hope that helps answer your questions.
     

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