Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds II

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    I doubt it. Bluster and propaganda doesn't change facts. Israel would lose such a war. It is unlikely it could survive even a week. If I had to sketch how such a war would proceed, the assessment would be much more gloomier for Israel than this.
    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-an-all-out-war-with-lebanon-is-very-risky-proposition/
    * More accurately stated: Israel would try to expand a war it would definitely lose by dragging Iran hoping that would then drag the US into the fight...
     
  2. Iranian Monitor

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hezbollah-tensions-fear-of-wider-conflict/
    Tensions between Israel and Hezbollah stir U.S. fears of wider conflict
     
  3. Moishe

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    As it stands Hezbollah is currently launching indiscriminately into Israel for the most part with the occasional military installation under pressure, torching acres of land, displacing up to 100k Israelis from the north yet not one single call for a cessation of hostilities from the enlightened public.

    Somehow I don’t believe to what degree Israel retaliates will matter, it’ll still be the same bullshit. The only acceptable Israeli response is total capitulation just nobody wants to really say the quiet part out loud.
     
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  4. yasik19

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    100% this. The deafening silence of anyone around the world and the UN about what's been going on in the North (and nobody is occupying Lebanon and don't give me the bs about Shebaa farms) is all too telling.
     
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  5. rslfanboy

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    Really? I’ve been hearing a lot about it. Granted, it is mostly about the US being drawn into a greater conflict.
     
  6. yasik19

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    Hearing global condemnation of Hezbollah and Iran? Hearing UN and other orgs criticizing Hezbollah actions? Hearing human rights groups demanding for Israeli citizens to come home? Seeing many various global warming warriors citing thousands of acre of fires burning in the north?

    What you have been seeing is news about the events taking place, but that's about it.
     
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  7. Why would Iran be so stupid to step into an eventual war between hezbolla and the idf? if idf goes in it fullfills the Iranian goal of the idf being targeted by more damaging weapons than the futile things hama popps at them. They simply can continue to replenish what's being shot.
     
  8. The fighting flared up after the bombing of Gaza:
    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/isr...d-hostilities-gaza-palestine-conflict-4503783
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    As was said it's a retaliation for the bombing of Gaza.
    It's not like those about 100k civilians were under fire from Lebanon like from Gaza by hama.

    Edit: what part of the sanctions against Iran for their involvement in the ongoing shit did you miss?
     
  9. Moishe

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    Flared up as in intensified but definitely not solely due to the response to the Hamas attack. Hezbollah attacks on Israel had been happening to one degree or another pre 10/7 be it a planted bomb or some version of an aerial projectile. Let’s not passive aggressively pretend this is a response to Israel going into Gaza.
     
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  10. Hezbollah and idf have been shooting at each other since the lebanon war at the border.
    That went from occasional interactions to full out launching of rockets etcetera since october 8th.
    Don't pretend it was business as usual before and after, like both Israeli and foreign media have reported about it's eruption since the invasion.
     
  11. mebeSajid

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    There hasn't been silence, but it appears that the trigger for the most recent escalation is the IDF assassinating a senior Hezbollah commander.
     
  12. rslfanboy

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    Well, that AND Hezbollah & Iran taking advantage of the Gaza crisis.
     
  13. yasik19

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    Not even sure what you meant to say. It's hard to respond when little sense is made. So should US or France or England retaliate for Hezbollah bombing Israel? How is israels war with Hamas a justification for such actions? What do sanctions against Iran have to do with global condemnation ? It's it really not that hard to call a spade a spade. You simply can't admit the truth because it goes against your wishful thinking. There is an incredible bias against Israel. Anyone not willing to acknowledge this is a hypocrite of the highest order.
     
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  14. yasik19

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    So launching 300+ aerial weapons at Israel was exactly what? We can debate triggers till the cows come home ..by this logic 10/7 was a trigger for Israel... Yet somehow the global opinion towards one sole Jewish state seems to be a 180 degree different compared to the sentiment for anyone else. The Jews just can't defend themselves without the world puking various hatred towards them.
     
  15. Things don't make sense when one isnot willing to understand.

    Hezbollah is already under sanctions by western countries for what they did and do.

    The same justification, allies, that has been used by my country to keep supplying F35 spare parts while these are being used to bomb the shit out of the civilians of Gaza and the USA to keep supplying bombs.

    Sanctions are the teeth of global condemnation. Strange you don't get that. it's the opposite of lipservice to a case.

    Have no clue what you mean with this.
    Well, it hasnot gone unnoticed how the Palestinians have been treated, not only in Gaza, but also in the Westbank.
    If you want to label that as bias.
     
  16. Moishe

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    You realize that your response to me is pretty much what I posted…you do realize that?

    How is this escalation any larger than any of the other significant launches and attacks prior to that commander getting greased?
     
  17. Uhm, no it isnot the same.
    Your claim is that what happens now is the same as before the invasion of Gaza.
    That's not so. Since the Gaza invasion hezbollah step by step increased their attacks as has been confirmed by western observers.
    It has been communicated by them they will step up the longer the war rages.
    The killing of that commander seems to have triggered the last two days of spike in attacks and the sort of weapons used.
     
  18. Moishe

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    This is one of the richest things you’ve posted yet.

    How are those sanctions working?



    Have no clue what you mean with this.

    The bias I speak of is via the media and the majority of the world.
     
  19. Moishe

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    You definitely do not follow the goings on in the North. Prior to the last couple of days back to 10/8 has seen some pretty intense barrages. Prior to 10/7 it had been lighter, significantly lighter but as I clearly said, it still existed
     
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