Rumor: ( HALF USA Spoilers) 2019 Roster Speculation Thread

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  1. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Well, the influx of money apparently being spent is a nice indicator that Mansueto's taken a more active role.
     
  2. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What money? He burned all the TAM /GAM and no DTAM. And, Adidas is paying Basti.
     
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  3. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
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    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thye at least $5.6 mil of league money to spend even more if they moved money up from next year.
     
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  4. chiladd

    chiladd Member+

    Mar 21, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Frankowski is here on DTAM - he is actually the player that alerted MLS fandom that such s thing existed.
     
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  5. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I won't believe it until Joe says it himself, that he's bought the other 51%. Until then same-o bullshit.
     
  6. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much DTAM did we use to sign Frankowski? Because there is only 2.4 million worth, rumor is that it would take DTAM to sign Gaitan. Would we have enough to do so?

    How does DTAM work? I'd you use DTAM that player he doesn't count as a DP? I'm assuming that Frankowski, Gaitan and probably Nelisson will be above the DP salary mark, making them DP's.
     
  7. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2019 Funny money.

    1.2 TAM (2019)
    200k GAM (2019)
    1.2 TAM (Accam)

    2.6 million

    2.8 DTAM

    Since we are out of TAM and GAM. Where did it all go?

    200k TAM, to get a international spot
    200k TAM, to get Sapong
    100k GAM, to get Sapong
    182k TAM, to buy down McCarty (if you go with 2018 budget hit 712k)
    65k TAM, to buy down Kapp (if you go with 2018 budget hit 595k)

    That's 747k, still have 1.353 worth

    ???k TAM, to buy down Marcelo

    Where else?

    7 figure fee of DTAM for Frankowski, so probably half of the DTAM, so we have around 1.4 of DTAM. Is that going to be enough to sign Gaitan?
     
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  8. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Owners have to buy DTAM.
    Frankowski used pretty much all of our DTAM.
     
  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then I guess we won't be getting Gaitan then, because this article says it would take DTAM to get him.

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...o-fire-closing-nico-gaitan-working-swedish-cb

    The source cautioned that the deal isn’t yet complete, but they said that it is trending in a positive direction for Chicago. If it does get done, the source said that the Fire would use Discretionary Targeted Allocation Money to sign Gaitan.
     
  10. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    DTAM has been been around a whole year before signing Frankowski.
     
  11. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    They can use GAM or TAM to pay for homegrown players.
     
  12. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is ridiculous. Just raise the salary cap!
     
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  13. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
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  14. GHjelm

    GHjelm Member+

    Apr 23, 2008
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  15. lncolnpk

    lncolnpk Member+

    Mar 5, 2012
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    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IMO,They signed him before he was signed by European club since he has Polish citizenship.
     
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  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, before today's signing we have four homegrown players, the most a team can use on homegrown players using TAM/GAM is 200k.

    Homegrown Player Subsidy

    • Homegrown Player(s) in roster slots 21-30 may earn in aggregate each year up to $125,000 above the Reserve Minimum Salary (if occupying slots 25-30) or Senior Minimum Salary (if occupying slots 21-24).
    • Clubs may use up to $200,000 of their currently available Targeted Allocation Money (i.e., amounts awarded through 2019) to sign new Homegrown Players to their first MLS contract, subject to League review and approval. Targeted Allocation Money cannot be used on a Homegrown Player previously signed to MLS.
    So knowing NRod he using the entire 200k of TAM/GAM on the homegrowns, that leaves 1.153 TAM/GAM
     
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  19. FireJuveChelsea

    Dec 7, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Everyone going to the game tomorrow needs to look for Nico and post on twitter or here. Look in the suites etc. If you don't find him and we find out he was there I will deeply disappointed in our fan base haha
     
  20. I could be wrong, but I believe that $200k may be funds available to sign players to contracts which may put a team over the cap. Think Jordan Morris.
     
  21. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So what da think is the over/under on Gaitan signing with us at this point?
     
  22. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    He is, we just do things way too slow. We were "signing" Basti for around three months before it actually happened.
     
  23. der sting

    der sting Member

    Oct 1, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The signing must be done with humility...
     
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  24. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union

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