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Discussion in 'Caribbean' started by bana2166, Oct 7, 2006.
JA has always been better than Haiti.
You really talk out of your a$$ sometimes...don't you? You morons think that every warrior fan benefits when Warner does what he does, but that is simply not true at all. We the fans dislike his interference, but you wouldn't know that. The closest you will get to qualifying for a major tournament is the Gold Cup. The WC is an unrealistic target for your war torn nation
Warlord, you need to stop living in the past. Right now, Jamaica is at the same level as Haiti and Cuba. Trinidad is barely stronger than these nations. You really need to understand this is the present and that Jamaica made the world cup ONCE...and that was 8 years ago. You talk about Jamaica winning when it counts, well the Gold Cup might determine where carribean nations will stand in WCQ. Jamaica might have to face, the US, or Mexico, or Honduras in the 1st rounds....teams that Jamaica will never beet. When you lose to Saint Vincent, you shouldn't talk bad about other nations. once again boy..stop living in the past. Jamaicai has no future...look at their youth teams....
You are truly delusional if you believe Haiti will earn a WC berth before Jamaica or Trinidad does. You say Jamaica is on the same level as Haiti and Cuba yet we often beat these teams on a regular basis
You couldn't even beat the Reggaeboyz most recently but you are here talking about we're on the same level with these French clowns. You need to do some research. Jamaica has always OWNED Haiti.
Now to your point about Trinidad being barely better than Haiti and Cuba is rather dumb. You don't win 9 Caribbean Cups and place 3rd in a recent Gold Cup by being marginally better than your opponents.
Show me Haiti's and Cuba's Caribbean titles, and Haiti has only gone to the WC ONCE just like Jamaica did. Jamaica earned it's berth while Haiti cheated the same Trinidad & Tobago team which you claim is marginal. I'm sure you remember Trinidad dominated the Haitians and scored 4 goals which were disallowed hence Haiti going to Germany in 1974.
TnT did not finish third, idiot. Haiti won continental cup 1958, runner-up Hex 1969, winner Hex 1973, runner-up Hex 1977. Haiti made the Hex in 1981 and political crisis in the second half of the 80's forced the country to forfeit most international competitions. If you know anything about Caribbean football, you would remember that around that time TnT which has always been a top contender in the region became unchallenged for a while as Cuban football also seemed to weaken. The TnT's complete domination which was mainly due to a lack of challenges from its most worthy rivals was, however, short-life as Jamaica assembled an army of mercenaries from England in the late 80's and ran over the caribbean. Until that period, your team was minnow just like the others.
Haitian clubs won the concacaf champions cup twice. Regarding what you call the caribbean cup that one of your teams won several times, do know that competition had not been as important in the past as it is now because it was a dead-end tournament that took you nowhere. The competition was often held in TnT and most of the times only a few countries participated in it. Let England organize the WC every four years and you will see how many times they woul win it.
Since the 80's Haitian football follows the mood of the country's politics. However, because we have a greater pool of talented players we have been able to keep up the appearance by beating our rivals almost as often as they beat us. Haiti is by the way 2-2 against your mighty TnT in their last four encounters and all those matches were played in TnT! In regard to Jamaica, do remember that the still-british-slave Warner fined Haiti just because we refuse to play "our home game' in a two-legs competition against Jamaica in Kingston! That idiot boss of yours probably think that Haitians and Jamaicans are two different races.
By the way, we just won a group competition in Kingston, while your team crashed out and is left in the dust. Additionally, guess who just won your U-17 crown? Should I mention we won it right under the nose of your second country? Our U-20 also finished first in a competition held in TnT earlier this year. Of course, we beat the host in that competition. Cho!
Apparently, you sound like a troubled kid who is looking for a dad he has never had. The man is not Haitian, dude. Look somewhere else. Don't hate on us.
To other Trinis and Jamaicans on this side, i want to say that the comment regarding Haitians not respecting TnT or Jamaica is far from the truth. We are a very proud nation as history would teach you. However, if you ever go to Haiti you will notice that Haitians have the utmost respect for TnT's football, which has been our main rival for over 50 years. The names of Latapy, Yorke, and Warren Archibald are legendary in Haiti. I consider Latapy the greatest caribbean player in our time. In regard to Jamaica, Haitians in general consider Jamaica's current domination very temporary and because of that we don't even feel any rivalry against the boyz. Finally, most Haitians are unaware that the majority of Trinis are not black. So, just like Jamaicans, Trinis are represented as brothers in our world view.
touppouyo, don't even let warlord get on your bad side. he's just tryin to start sum trouble w/ anyone Haitian cuz he's too insecure about what he is. We all rememba last month when Haiti won group D and the reggae boyz were eliminated at home which means they won't be in any competitive action for the next 2 years.....where was warlord then???
Lol...warlord learn your history before u comment. Jamaica has never dominated Carribean football. They did well as of the 80s only because Haiti was out of the picture. Like someone mentioned, we do have respect for Trinidad, they have been our greatest rivals for the past 50 years.
Yes you beat us 2-0 last game. Don't you understand Haiit didnt care to win. Jamaica needed 3 goals and they came short against a team that didn't even care. Jamaica had their couple years of glory ( cause Haiti was out of the picture), but now its over. In the near future , Trinidad will remain the best, followd by Haiti and Cuba, and St-Vincent, and then Jamaica. I mean St Vincent did beat you on your onw turf no? loll
You seem to more of a bigger idiot than I thought. First of all, let me remind you of something......Jamaica is not my second country...I was born in Jamaica which makes me Jamaican dumba$$ and Warner is not the boss of my Federation....Crenston Boxhill is. Now to address you points.
Haiti has never done anything in Caribbean football EVER. You speak of continental titles but you only have ONE in club football. While Jamaica has none...i think Trinidad and Tobago has 2 club titles, but we're not talking about club football here are....we're talking about the NT success which yours haven't had since cheating to get to W. Germany in 1974. I don't care what type of spin you try to put on it but The Caribbean Cup started in 1989 and was very important in the development of Caribbean football. That tournament helped harness some of the talent that has succeeded today, so for you to minimize the relevance and importance of that tournament further let's me know that you are talking out of your a$$
The reason why you dismiss this tournament is simply because your dumb nation has NEVER won any! Let's take a look at who's won....TnT 8, Jamaica 4, Cuba 1, Martinique 1...and Haiti NIL!!!!
Makes you feel like shite doesn't it? No one talks about your sorry a$$ nation except for when the media speaks of malnourished, poor, dirt-infested countries like yours run by a dictator who is greedy
Now in reference to my birthland Jamaica, we only started dominating football in the Caribbean since 1991....not the '80s as you suggested. Trinidad did...then we took ova from them. We still have a ways to go, but I'll tell you this we have had more talented ballers than your rafting nation have ever seen.
You speak of Trinidad's Latapy and Yorke's but what about my Jamaica's Allan "skill" Cole, Paul" Tegat" Davis, Whitmore's, Blacka Pearl's etc. Do they get any respect in Haiti?
While I admit Latapy was a great balla in his time, believe me.....Alan "Skill" Cole was really the king. He was not as famous as Latapy, but he had loads of skill like Latapy did but didn't get international recognition.
Lastly, I don't have any reason to hate on you Haitians because you've been successful at NOTHING than makes me envious, but I could understand why you people are envious of us Jamaicans. We've constantly proven that we've been more successful than you in football, our socio-economic state is far better than yours, not to mention our cuisine and our reggaemusic more popular than yours, and lastly your women say we're much, much better...nuff said
You get props for advancing but Jamaica did beat you 2-0 didn't we.
I know my history...but obviously you don't. You are tryin to minimize Jamaica's win by stating that the game meant nothing to Haiti? How stupid is that. Haiti wants to beat Jamaica whenever the chance presents itself so don't give me that crap about the game wasn't important. It was pride and you lost so get over it. You cannot beat us. I can't wait to see you when WCQ rolls around...
the match meant less to Haiti's squad especially since the Jamaican public were fiercely on the reggae boyz afta they lost to the vincy heat, the mission was clear for the Haitians......hold the reggae boyz to just 2 goals or less and they would win the group D crown....mission accomplished Jamaica were more motivated to win the game but Haiti outplayed them in the second half.
That was luck on your part but facts don't lie. You cannot beat us. we Jamaicans wanted our boyz to advance and I know because our forumites on reggaeboyz site was very disappointed but that is life. We've been having problems for several months with players but with the hiring of Milutinovic we'll see what happens. Let's see what you do against Trinidad. They will not be playing full strength as many of the European based players will be missing. I still doubt your team will beat the Warriors.
How old are you? You are probably a 14 or 15 years old girl. At least, you sound like one. YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT A JAMAICAN. Otherwise, you would have known that Haitians and Jamaicans are both Afro-caribbean people and there is zero rivalry between those two nations. That makes your case weird.
Shut up and let me educate you on caribbean football, imbecile. Clubs from TnT, Haiti, and Surinam have won the concacaf champions cup several times. Racing Club Haitian and Violette Athletic Club both from Haiti won it in 1963 and 1985 respectively.
Caribbean teams are now more interested in the cfu cup because of the gold cup and the price money. Beside that, being caribbean champs means little.
By the way, since you are looking for a father figure, here is a jamaican site that can really help you: http://www.thereggaeboyz.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/forum/1.html
Go show your anti-haitian feelings there and real Jamaicans will certainly help you with your problems.
Are you sure it's 'neanderthols'? Looking for yourself still, dude. Jamaica is Afro-Caribbean. Need help with that, black-E.Indian-hispanic boy? Deal with your issues.
Neatherthol equates to idiots like you. You have no concept of the various ethnic backgrounds within our beautiful island nation. Your statement that Jamaica is only Afro-Carribean further lets me know that you have no knowledge of what you're talking about. You should really study our history before opening your mouth. Does dancehall dj Sean Paul, Supercat look black to you? Does JLP's Edward Seaga look black to you?
I think you have an inferiority complex regarding lighter-skinned Jamaicans like myself. You are obviously jealous that we don't have nappy heads like your dark-skinned ugly a$$ Haitians do. Don't hate on me because I a Jamaican of mixed descent.
Here's some info on Jamaica since you seem ignorant. Note that Jamaicans are not ONLY of African descent. Educate yourself moron.
U seem to be the ignorant 1, Haitians are not only African descent just like any other West indian country. Sean Paul's from Spanish Town where everybody looks like him.
Most Haitians knows about the racism in Haiti between blacks and whites but apparently in Jamaica they keep that secret to themselves. Even though ur light skinned it only proves that u did have "nappy headed", dark-skinned, "ugly ass" ancestors or whatever u wanna call them that were brang on slave ships to ur country and later ur female ancestors were raped by their English owners which you probably know.
No 1 said there is a rivalry between Haiti and Jamaica but apparently u have problems, cuz there's no reason for any of these dumb comments.
So go start your own topic about Jamaica or about how much u hate Haitians, cuz there's no point in starting trouble on a Haitian matchups topic. This explains y ur so called ppl were talkin trash about u on thereggaeboyz.com chat room, and u know what i'm talkin about
Have you ever visited Jamaica before? What makes you think everybody in Spanish Town looks like Sean Paul? First of all, Sean Paul is not even from Spanish Town....he's a Kingstonian raised in the parish of St Andrew. You do not know what you are talking about. I could point to a zillion people there that don't look like him. If you knew Jamaica you would know that most of lightskinned people actually live in St Elizabeth Parish which has a rather high percentage of Jamaicans of German descent. You are beginning to sound like a clone of another Haitian dumba$$ named Touppouyo. You ignant people know NOTHING about Jamaica so stay off the topic.
Why do you people talk so much shite. You sound like a bunch of uneducated fools. If I was a descendant of 100% African like you Haitians then I probably would have the same hair texture that you and Toppouyo have but that's not the case. You see I'm descended from East Indian, Hispanic/Black which obviously makes me a mixed person which means neither of my parents hair is nappy doesn't it.
Now to address your comment about rivalry I never said there was any at all. If you could point me to where in my previous posts i said that then I will accept the responsibility but I know I didn't.
And where on which reggaeboyz site did I get trashed as you so put it by my fellow Jamaicans? Please send me the link.....I'd like to read what their comments were
Warlord, you tell people they don't know anything about Jamaica, but you talk about Haiti without knowing anything about that country. No, not all haitians are fully of African decent like you claim. It is far from beeing true. 10% of the population is considered mulatto which is of African, Spanish and French decent. There are also many haitians of arabic ancestry: lebanese, syrians and egyptians. There are haitians of all shades and colors, we are a mixed society. A little education for you Warlord. You claim you do not have nappy hair because you are a descendent of East Indian, hispanic, and black. That doesn't mean anything boyyy. Hispanic is not a race....hispanic only means, someone that has spanish as its 1st language. David suazo is black from Honduras, he is a hispanic...he has nappy hair. Diego Maradonna is hispanic...he doesn't have nappy hair. Lol it has nothing to do. There are black hispanics, white hispanics, native indians hispanics, mestizos, mulatos etc etc. You need to educate yourself before you talk boy.
A trini kid with a dangerous complex
The whole Jamaican team=blacks with 'nappy hair'
9 out 11 of TnT nt regular players=black with 'nappy hair'
are you sure you from TnT and Jamaica, cooooolie?
Come on, are you guys serious.
I never said Haiti was all black.....what I said was that likkle idiot bwoy named Tappouyo and Flash EP were probably dark-skinned blacks. I never said all of Haiti was. Review my previous posts.....to be honest I don't give a shite wtf Haiti has in their messed up.... down trodden... rafting nation. You people are the scum of the Caribbean! The poorest muthafcukers in the Western Hemisphere yet these two batty bwoys dem a try big up dutty life inna fi dem country.
Now that I done got that out of the way.... let me address your other comments.
When I made reference to Hispanic, I was referring to pure Hispanic not Hispanics of biracial ancestry...i.e blacks, mestizos, whatever else you were wanna call them. By the way, I didn't know all of a sudden you became Haitian. I remember reading a post of yours in another thread where you stated you were of Costa Rican/Trinidadian descent. Was that not true or you became a nautralised Haitian..what is it?
Stop the personal attacks or this thread will get closed
And your point about Jamaica's players is what again? Do you remember Jamaica's Tyrone Marshall and Gregory Messam? Did they look black to you?
Your eyes are somewhere close to where you lodge your tampons where you bleed every month:
Are you sure you're Haitian? How does rooster's blood taste
Probably better than chicken heads...