Guzan's Permit denied

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by CACuzcatlan, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully he can work out a last minute deal with Celtic.
     
  2. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Should i assume that this means his APPEAL was denied, as his first submission was sure to be denied based upon the fact that he doesn't have enough caps? Anyway, this just goes to show you how biased the system is toward larger clubs. As far as I'm concerned, Guzan is better than Howard was when Howard left ........... yet Howard got the permit. Pretty sad if you ask me.
     
  3. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The article makes it sound like his initial permit was denied for not having enough caps. If he's gonna make an appeal he's got 6 hours left.

    Another person who also has 6 hours to change their decision is Rossi.
     
  4. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Howard's mother is Hungarian, which I believe allowed him to get passport, thus making him "European" enough for Bosman protection in that regard.
     
  5. abw

    abw Member+

    Nov 10, 1999
    Athens, GA
    IIRC, Howard held a Hungarian passport, and Hungary had just been admitted to the EU. Blair announced that he would treat Hungarian citizens as members of the EU for work permit purposes even though the treaty had not gone into force.
     
  6. FakeFlopper

    FakeFlopper Member

    Jul 21, 2005
    Austin, Tx
    Too bad. I think it's said really that Howard didn't get enough caps between 2002-2006 to have the experience he needs to be the top keeper for the Nats. If he did maybe, Guzano would have been able to get more caps and gotten a permit. Either way, this is bad for Guzan so hopefully he can get something done.
     
  7. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Rossi who?
     
  8. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Does anyone have a list off MLS players who at one time had their WP appeal denied by the home office in England?

    Guzan
    Convey
    ???
     
  9. trip76

    trip76 Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    North East USA
    i think i remember reading when the deal was first announced, that it he was expected to be denied, but his first round draft pick would help his appeal.
     
  10. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey

    umm...no offense, but Bosman isn't even remotely relevant to this discussion.
     
  11. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta

    Wolff

    Dalby??
     
  12. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not clear on the level of national autonomy that exists in Scotland, but wouldn't work permit rules there be exactly the same as they are in England (or Wales)?
     
  13. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok. thanks for the correction. for some reason i was thinking that he got it on appeal.
     
  14. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Giuseppe Rossi, born in NJ to Italian immigrants. Plays (and starts) for Villareal in La Liga. Eligible to play for the U.S. and almost instantly become the best player we've ever had, but instead he wants to play for Italy. He turns 21 tomorrow and I believe he has yet to make his senior team debut for Italy so he's still eligible to play the U.S. Until he turns 21.
     
  16. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    That was a rhetorical question.
     
  17. MikePNE

    MikePNE New Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Preston
    Guzan Work Permit Denied

    Aston Villa have been thwarted in their attempts to sign USA goalkeeper Brad Guzan after they failed to obtain a work permit for him.


    Villa boss Martin O'Neill had lined up a £2million move for the Chivas USA keeper as he looked to bolster his goalkeeping options.

    Celtic had been linked with Guzan, but Villa stole in to try and lure the player to England.

    However, Villa's attempts to sign Guzan have been unsuccessful as a work permit application has been rejected by the Home Office.

    Guzan application was automatically rejected as he has not played enough games for America having won just five caps to date.

    www.planetfootball.com

    The work permit system is a joke.
     
  18. CACuzcatlan

    CACuzcatlan Member

    Jun 11, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. FFCinPCB

    FFCinPCB New Member

    Jul 3, 2006
    Point Washington, FL
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is an interesting case, though. Read about it and understand how draconian the rules were before:
    http://www.liv.ac.uk/footballindustry/bosman.html
     
  20. Crazy_Yank

    Crazy_Yank Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    Matamoros, Mexico
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC Howard had a Hungarian passport (thru his mother) and Hungry was in line to join the EU the following year. Also I suppose Man Yoo carries more weight than Aston Villa. I really don't understand the purpose of England's work permitt rules. Why don't the clubs have the final say on who is good enough to play for them. I imagine Guzan will win his appeal. I think he's better than both Howard and Friedel (at similar career points) and better than anyone the Three Lions can trot out.
     
  21. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Because clubs aren't the governmental office that issues work visas. The purpose of work visas is to provide some protection for the domestic workforce. Be it carpenters, accountants, or goalkeepers.
     
  22. Crazy_Yank

    Crazy_Yank Member

    Jan 8, 2001
    Matamoros, Mexico
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I understand the purpose of the government office. What I don't understand is why the word of said club isn't good enough for the government office. There are national teams far better than England whose domestic leagues don't follow such silly procedures.
     
  23. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    And we all know English goalkeepers need as much protection as they can get
     
  24. trip76

    trip76 Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    North East USA
    just asked my scottish wife who officially got her green card here in the US about a year ago, and she said that its a UK work permit, that scotland and england don't offer separate permits.
     
  25. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thought so. Somebody tell Ives.
     

Share This Page