Guter Gone

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by JoeW, Nov 2, 2002.

  1. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    In today's WPost, DCU will not renew the contract of head trainer Rick Guter. I suspect this has more to do with Hudson wanting the team to go in a different direction in terms of physical development (ie: like doing more weight training--the AU sessions) than it does an evaluation of Guter's performance.
     
  2. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    I thought I recalled that Petrosian of AU was now a full time fitness coach or something like that. I wonder if Petrosian is filling Guter's role or if he's in addition to the "trainer" position?

    Whichever, I'm very glad to hear of Petrosian having daily workouts with Moreno, at least through the end of December. As one of the people who at midseason was adamant about our trainer--at a minimum--calling players like Moreno on a daily basis to ensure that they are training daily, and wanting him to accompany them at offseason workouts, I'm happy to have Petrosian aboard!

    You can lay some of the blame for our team's offseason largess on the lack of a coach for so long, but really, the trainer is the guy on an MLS staff that needs to push the players. By this I mean push them to build and maintain fitness, endurance, strength and speed in the offseason. United was probably the worst in the league at it, and it showed.

    Best of luck to Guter in his future endeavors. He presided over some good years at DC United.

    -Tron
     
  3. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
  4. Doug Dobey

    Doug Dobey New Member

    Nov 27, 1999
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sad to see another of our inaugural group move on.
    Always thought he was a class act.
    Good luck, Rick!
     
  5. GrillMaster

    GrillMaster Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My two cents: I think it's better to talk about each move as it happens than have some single thread that turns into the thread-to-kill-all-threads covering every single offseason move.
     
  7. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    So will Guter go join another team and get them all into really tip top fantasically amazing shape and have them come back to haunt us?

    Is Guter the next United Killer???? :eek:


























    ;)
     
  8. terp fan

    terp fan New Member

    Nov 21, 2000
    Now all the good is gone

    Ray Hudson continues to do one stupid thing after another and letting Rich Guter go continues his streak. In Hudson's mind if Rich done his job better DCU would have gone undefeated. Everyone knows a trainer will make or break a team and the coach has no responsibility.
    When are we going to get rid of this clown, he is an embarrassment to the team, the fans and the city. Hey, anything stupid to say today Ray? We all know you are a quote machine.
     
  9. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    I have no inside knowledge on this issue--only from what I've heard Hudson and others say on a range of issues and then how I put it all together. I don't think this is about Guter being blamed for injuries or how the team performed. I suspect that Ray has some strong opinions about physical training (both for the team to be more physically imposing, to help youngsters like Convey not get pushed around the field, and to milk every bit of performance he can out of some players who aren't going to be stars) and Guter may have some differences of opinion on some of that. More specifically, Guter and Petrosian may have tremendous overlap in their offseason roles and strong differences of opinion as to approaches (free weights vs. nautilus, strength vs. range, approaches to developing aerobic capacity). This doesn't need to be a major issue. Sometimes you've got 2 guys who just aren't on the same page and so you need to drop one of them.

    Having said that, I'd always heard good things about Guter.
     
  10. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently he's good enough for the National Team....
     
  11. eneste

    eneste Member

    Mar 24, 2000
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Re: Now all the good is gone

    I would think that Kasper would have a bigger role in this decision than Ray.
     
  12. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    Yeah and look what it did for Reyna, Mathis, Friedel, all with the knee troubles now.

    Don't even get me started on Eddie Pope. Between DC United and the USMNT he has more than enough time to get hurt by this guy!!

    :D
     
  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Miss the playoffs for a third straight season and they fire the trainer. Yeah, he was the problem. Him and Onalfo. With those 2 gone, it's nothing but blue skies ahead.
     
  14. Cristobal

    Cristobal Member

    Dec 1, 1999
    Falls Church
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is just the start of a sweeping offseason. If I were Talon, I'd be worried.
     
  15. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Yeah, Ray's cleaning house ... again. Seriously though, in every professional sport the norm is a coach who comes in and clears out the former coaches players and staff in favor of those totally committed to the new coach and his ideas. It now looks as if every staff member has been turned over, and only the best of the old players were kept. Hopefully the results will come, but to expect any less turnover might have been a bit naive. Another last place finish and Hudson may be the one replaced (but apparently not by Dave Sarachan, as we seem to have lost that opportunity with the stories of him becoming the new coach of the Chicago Fire).

    -Tron
     
  16. ROAVA

    ROAVA New Member

    Nov 9, 2000
    :)
    lol
     
  17. TEConnor

    TEConnor New Member

    Feb 22, 1999
    He's frickisee as far as I'm concerned.
     
  18. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Perhaps this is nothing more than a salary issue.

    Guter = paid position

    Petrosian = volunteer

    That would be a "new direction"...
     

Share This Page