Gullit Speaks! (again) 1/26/10

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by shirteesdotnet, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. shirteesdotnet

    Feb 13, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Ya this guy says a whole bunch of crap about how he couldn't believe the culture and such... Should have done his research before coming over.
     
  3. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    Ex-pat in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    "He also can't get used to the American system of playoffs that MLS uses. Gullit thinks it creates an atmosphere that's not conducive to top soccer, clashing with the rest of the world, where the team that finishes first automatically is the champion."

    Rest of the world? Does that not include Mexico and most South American leagues then?
     
  4. jmaestro

    jmaestro Member+

    Mar 27, 2008
    Bakersfield
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't have a lot of patience for Gullit. Hard time getting motivated without press coverage? $6mil doesn't motivate you buddy? Don't like the playoff system? Think it's too easy to get into the playoffs so teams aren't motivated? So you couldn't get the team in playoff position against a bunch of unmotivated teams? Don't like the fact you have to work under the cap, so you have to actually draft well, sign players well, and then coach well to succeed? Sounds like he just doesn't like hard work. Almost like you'd expect for him to be the kind of guy to leave practice early and leave stuff to assistant coaches....oh wait.

    OK, that's all I got. Out of sarcasm for today.
     
  5. shirteesdotnet

    Feb 13, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I knew we were doomed with him when he didnt show up for the MLS draft.
     
  6. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Ya that guy was a total failure. I liked the way the team played under him for the first 3 games or so. After that they just stopped trying.
     
  7. Rodneyd44

    Rodneyd44 New Member

    Aug 28, 2002
    North OC, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He never was really interested the team, I saw him in San Ho se at a reserve match and he was out side the gate yapping on his cell phone during most of the match; not even watching the match. According to at least one player, he had the same feeling about Rudd.
     
  8. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just don't understand how anyone could be so unaware of what they are getting themselves into in this day and age.
     
  9. westcoast ape

    westcoast ape Member+

    Nov 27, 2000
    Portland, OR
    Edson Buddle played well under him.



    I'm operating under the "if you don't have anything nice to say" rule.
     
  10. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    ruud gullit was a bad coach before he came to the galaxy, i thought it was a horrible decision when it was announced. he's always got an excuse for his poor performances as a coach, it's never his fault.

    having said that he was brought in to a poorly run team, on the back of two disappointing seasons, where the two star players were at odds and the ownership group was so dysfunctional no one had any idea what was going on, or who was in charge. i don't think there's a coach out there, including arena, who could have succeeded that season. as an organization we needed to hit rock bottom the lalas-yallop-gullit era was almost a necessity, the growing pains of the league taking another step in becoming a top league (still a long way off, and there are still going to be major gaffes like the 2006-2008 galaxy, but we're on our way)
     
  11. Onyewu Power Station

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Everton FC
    yep. he brought out the very in best in Buddle. no one else has even come close.

    people exagerate his tenure here so badly its embarassing. the team was first in the west for a while. sure they tailed off but the team he inherited was absolute garbage. klein for findley and sturgis....jesus********ingchrist.

    you cant make chicken soup out of chicken shit
     
  12. GalaxyKoa

    GalaxyKoa Member+

    Jul 18, 2007
    North County
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had the team playing some attractive football at times, yes, but that doesn't hide the fact that he didn't give a shit about the team or even performing the job he was paid handsomely to do. The team ended up worse off because of that.
     
  13. Beakmon FC

    Beakmon FC Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Jan 10, 2002
    The OC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The team was scoring goals like no other team (probably) in MLS history. For a handful of games, it was fun, even if they couldn't keep other teams from scoring.

    It's kind of strange, but the entire interview reads like a lame bigsoccer post.
     
  14. bbbmmmlll

    bbbmmmlll Member

    Feb 9, 2007
    Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We played some of the most exciting soccer I've ever seen in the MLS with Gullit as coach. I really miss the attacking soccer sometimes.

    He's a professional and should have done his homework and understood how the league worked. Seems rather lazy of him not to. The front office should have also played a role in his education. Paying $6 million and not preparing your investment is foolish. What a waste all around.
     
  15. Jedimaster1

    Jedimaster1 Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    SLC, UT
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes it was. Now if we could keep him as our offensive coordinator and keep Bruce coaching the defense, then we could have the greatest football team ever... Oh wait, thinking from my American football perspective. Sorry Ruud, my ignorant American mind mistaken the two sports. Oops, my bad.:eek:
     
  16. The Beautiful Gamer

    The Beautiful Gamer BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 26, 2008
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now he is going to be sitting with Lalas on ESPN. God I wonder how long that will last.
     
  17. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    i'd argue the '98 galaxy team was more exciting, okay maybe not more exciting since we dominated so many teams and gave up so few goals.
     
  18. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    Ex-pat in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    At the risk of sounding like a Eurosnob, I only found that exciting to a point. High scoring, end-to-end games are one thing, but when it's your ineptitude that's causing you to ship goals as much as your talent causing scoring at the other end, that quickly goes from "exciting" to "frustrating".

    If anything, the constant, undisciplined waves of attack, while producing goals, was actually killing us because our goal was almost perpetual cannon fodder. If I want that kind of "exciting", I can go and watch a 12-7 pickup game.
     
  19. skydog

    skydog Member+

    Aug 1, 1999
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    His three-year contract was said to be worth $6 million, and he said that was so out of line with MLS standards that it created an uncomfortable situation.
    "For the amount of money that they normally pay, I don't go from Europe all the way to live here. So therefore they need to find sponsors. But who knows Ruud Gullit in America?Who would pay that amount of money? And the moment that you find out nobody wants to pay that, that's where all the trouble starts," he said.


    That is an interesting quote. Reading between the lines it sounds like part of his pay may have been tied to endorsements that never materialized. Why else would the lack of sponsors cause problems for Gullit? I wouldn't be surprised if he had something like a 200k + x from endorsements, but x never came in. Remember one of the first signs that Gullit was leaving was his putting his recently purchased fancy megabuck home back up for sale. Just speculation on my part, but it would fit the actions of a mercenary like Ruud.
     
  20. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not Ruud without a "therefore" or two.
     
  21. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. harry callahan

    Jul 15, 2007
    Angel City Brigade
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    General opinion in the UK. about Gullit was, a great player but didnt translate into being a good manager, Chelsea got shot of him despite some success.
     
  23. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    Ex-pat in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    50-50. While I don't think it's an excuse for his performance, football isn't covered very much in the mainstream at all, which is a massive juxtaposition to Europe where the media is saturated with it.

    I can also see his point about resistance of the game, though only to a point. The likes of Jim Rome and that Cowherd guy do rub you up the wrong way (though I've only seen seen them about three times between them). I don't see Gary Lineker or the Sky Sports pundits lambasting the NFL or NBA. I've also had the occassional colleague 'confront' me over the game - without provocation I might add -and how boring, wussy and crap it is.

    Having said that, I've also met plenty of fans (again, some of them colleagues), am able to watch most games and certainly pretty much all highlights, and ESPN and ABC are showing all the World Cup games between them. So it's probably less "resistance" and more "reluctance" and only from very specific, arguably uninfluential quarters.

    Back to Gullit - the odd thing about him is that in his prime he was on Ronaldo or Messi in terms of stature and due to his range of passing, vision and reading of the game, was deemed "the thinking mans player". Nowadays he seems very out-of-touch, not just in the USA, but in some of his decisions at Chelsea and Newcastle. I also noticed that at Feyenoord, he seemed to do apallingly. He's have been one of the first players you'd expect to excel in management.
     
  24. jmaestro

    jmaestro Member+

    Mar 27, 2008
    Bakersfield
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Proving that you never really know what players will translate into good coaches until they have a try at it.

    You know, something to keep in mind about the Gullit era was that although it was exciting at the beginning (and it was--no matter how badly it ended) it was also on the back of having our best 3 offensive players have great starts to the year. Beckham, Donovan, and Buddle were all clicking well, and that covered up the fact that the backline couldn't stop anyone. We haven't really seen them all in good form since then, mainly because Buddle has been injured or performing poorly. I think it's easy to forget that Buddle has had a career-long habit of starting strong with a new team, then fading into what appears to be a kind of apathy. Not sure that Gullit can be given all the credit for his fast start.

    So while the start was fun, as soon as the offense started spluttering, it was clear that Gullit had no answers for it, and no desire to do the hard work to fix things. For that reason, I'm a little non-inclined to give Gullit the credit for the outpouring of goals from three players who were firing on all cylinders to start the year.
     
  25. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    Ex-pat in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I don't know how true it is, but the assistant manager at Chelsea claimed that during one game he wanted to change to a formation that incuded one defender.
     

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