You kids remember Abu Abbas? International terrorist? FBI Most Wanted Terrorist list superstar? The foul animal who headed the Achille Lauro hijacking, the guy who put a bullet into the head of an elderly American in a wheelchair and then pushed him into the ocean? You know, the Fatah TERRORIST? Iraqi civilians in Baghdad grabbed him up today and turned him over to the US Army. Anybody hear the "no connection in Iraq with terrorism" theory crashing and burning? Don't you guys ever get tired of being wrong?
Sorry - I have to make a correction. News reports now are saying that he was nabbed by US Special Forces AT HIS HOME IN BAGHDAD. It just gets better and better.
Re: Re: Guess Who They Caught Today? It's called "The War on Terrorism" It's been in all the papers. Back to you, Chet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: Re: Re: Guess Who They Caught Today? here's hoping the war on terrorism is as successful as the war on drugs...
Re: Re: Guess Who They Caught Today? Who cares? Another terrorist will face justice. I just wonder why the Syrians turned him away? He must really be an obnoxious character.
So THAT's why we went to war! To catch Abu Abbas! Jeez, why didn't they say so? Why did they keep it a secret? And when are we going after the West Bank for harboring the guys behind the Munich Olympics massacre? Or Egypt, for having harbored Carlos the Jackal? Or the United States, for allowing Gerry Adams into the country? Doesn't your back get tired from moving the goalposts all the time? Jesus, any bit of good news out of Iraq, and the right uses it to bash the left. No wonder people see the right as bloodthirsty, shallow troglodytes.
> It's called "The War on Terrorism" Jeez, we arn't at war against all terrorism everwhere. If we were, why arn't we helping Iran against the MEK or the Russians against the Chechnians? There are plenty of people who think that this invasion was was just a proxy enterprise for Israeli interests, and if you actually claim that capturing this guy is justification for the war you are agreeing with them.
(CNN) -- The text of President Bush's address Tuesday night, after terrorist attacks on New York and Washington: "The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I've directed the full resources for our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and bring them to justice. We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them." Remember the War on Terrorism? I thought you were behind catching those who "harbor" terrorists? Get it, Loney? Unless, of course, you're claiming Abu Abbas is not a terrorist.
Havent you and superdave gotten tired of using that somewhat lame phrase yet? Hey wait a minute...has anyone ever seen Dan Loney and superdave in the same room at the same time? ...hmm...
a) We went to WAR ON TERRORISM. b) Abu Abbas was a terrorist c) You said Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists d) You were wrong You mean Yassir Arafat, who planned and directed the Munich murders? Be careful here - you'll get his pal Joe Pak after you. Be patient Dan. Why is it all you guys insist that we fight EVERYBODY ALL AT ONCE? What about North Korea? What about Iran? What about Upper Volta? You all seem to feel that the war on terrorism has no legitimacy if we only invade one country at a time. It is nonsensical. We went to war on terrorism. We got a terrorist. If we don't catch them all in one day, by your theory we must be failing? Does he have a home here? See, we declared war on terrorism. Nothing's changed. Nothing WILL change. The problem is that YOU guys keep losing. Jesus, any bit of bad news out of Iraq, and the left uses it to bash the right. No wonder people see the left as weak, frightened bunnies
well this is a fun debate. Loney and ARcher into the steel cage. This guy is a bad guy terrorist, that is true. This guy was (most likely) being harbored by Iraq (they probably knew he was there) Sure the war on terrorism started on 09/11, but it has had very little to do with the war on Iraq. In my mind this war was sold to the American people by the Bushies (and to the Un for that matter) because: IN no particular order..... 1. Iraq not complying with Un resolutions (discussed ad nauseum) 2. Iraq still working on WMD. 3. Iraq has some ties to terrorism, although they are a somewhat secular state. 4. 2+3 = Really scary for US and Israel among others 5. Sadaam Bad, very bad (human rights, gassing kurds, invading Kuwait etc.) The fact this guy was captured gives creedence to the argument that Iraq has some ties to terrorism. That is all, stop overexaggerating this as some sort of proof that Bush was right in starting the war. It definitely is a plus column on the side of Bush, but it isn't a winning issue. #1 and #2 come true when we find WMD. #5 is a given. #4 is just a fear which can't be proven or disproven. #3 with the arrest, the camp in the north, the alleged camp near Bagdad (haven't heard much about this), the fact that Iraq at least offered (don't know if they actually do or not) martyrs against Israel money in exchange for martyrdom all lend creedance to #3. Moral of the story, Bush justifies this war when we find WMD. The more stories we have regarding #3 the more likely it seems. Until then the left is justified in questioning the motives of Bush in starting this war and the neocons are more right than they were yesterday, but not entirely correct yet.
I hear there is a video on the internet with...oh nevermind. Wasn't there another well known terrorist shot in Iraq last year? He must have been on holiday, too! Hotel Iraq: Where Terrorist Checkout and Can Never Leave
Catch a couple of terrorists in a backward state, jeez, you can send a few special forces over there at night doing just that without an actual war. But the problem was they can't cover all of these oil fields. Therefore, army of 300,000 soldiers' invasion became logical.
Archer, this is lame even for you... This is totally a nice side effect of a an invasion that was conducted for absolutely other reasons, nothing more.
Please drop this lame act. The Israeli Government has permitted Abbass to visit Gaza several times, when they could have arrested him. He has also renounced violence, and condemned September 11th. If the American right is declaring this as some sort of great victory in the war on terror, then the war must be going terribly.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...m/20030416/ts_nm/iraq_abbas_palestinians_dc_2 Looks like the PLO want him released, but I think he will be taking a scenic tour of Rome some time soon.
And Bush referred to his presence in Iraq prior to the attack, IIRC. This is not new news and while it should bring some justice to Klinghofer's murderer, it will not materially affect terrorism today.
Abu Abbas was a terrorist who committed the 9/11 attacks? 'Cause that was what that speech was about.
Actually, no we didn't. We said there was no evidence Iraq was in league with al-Qaeda. There still isn't. But keep telling yourself we said something we didn't if that helps you sleep at night.