Grover Gibson vs. Markus Schmidt [R]

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Alex_K, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    There was a kicker-article on the Regensburg - Alemannia Aachen cup game on monday. Gibson's Regensburg lost 1:3 in over time. Gibson was sent off with a (according to kicker undeserved) red card in this game. The interesting part is that kicker quotes Gibson with: "The referee told me during the game that I would get a red card today and that he wouldn't give me penalty". Referee Markus Schmidt has denied those accusations.

    http://www.kicker.de/content/news/a...liga=1&saison=2005/06&spieltag=2&gruppe=17988
     
  2. Brihodge

    Brihodge New Member

    Apr 27, 2001
    Unterwegs
    So why did he wait until the 102nd minute to do it?
     
  3. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well we know Grover won't post on here to tell us about it... :)
     
  4. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    It's like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown.

    Disturbing, whether or not his accusations are true. Because if they're not, that makes him seem pretty wierd.
     
  5. LittleMaradona

    Feb 25, 2001
    I loved his anti-MLS propaganda.
     
  6. cldiscodan

    cldiscodan New Member

    Feb 12, 2002
    What are these quotes referring to?
     
  7. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    BS-YA has trouble not being able to respect opinions when he came on the board. The thread he started basically became a troll/flame war. With him saying MLS wasn't good quality and the MLSphiles declaring an intifada on him.

    It was pretty embarrassing.
     
  8. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    well, clearly when you have the opportunity to play in Germany in the 3rd or 4th Division, MLS does not look so good. :)
     
  9. HSVchick

    HSVchick New Member

    Jul 23, 2005
    Hamburg, Germany
    Most of the Regionalliga and Oberliga teams are just semi professional so I would say the level of play is much higher in the MLS although I have never watched an MLS match.
     
  10. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Bruce was sarcastic, but anyway: I don't think that there is a single Regionalliga team which is only or mostly semi-professional.
     
  11. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Mr. Gibson came to BS with a major attitude problem. Instead of serious discussion about soccer in Germany, which would have interested quite a few of us, he seemed more interested in dissing MLS. It's not surprising that it irritated a number of people. If he's happier with the bottom feeders in Germany, then I wish him well.
     
  12. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  13. scarshins

    scarshins Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    fcva
    where's Tim Lawson by the way?
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Um, Grover was quite the douchebag himself.
     
  15. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    kind of. His statements were pretty strong, but there was a grain of truth in some of what he said. The other parts could have been easily ignored(imagine that on BS.)

    Also, at the time, he was the only player ever to publicly write something on the boards. This was a big deal for a lot of us because the 3rd div was still somewhat of an enimga to us. Unfotunately, some people couldn't restrain themselves about some of his hyberbolic comments. Some of his other comments were pretty dead on and insightful.

    At the end of the day, we ended up losing any sort of inside information because we couldn't have better degree of restraint.

    ____

    Back to topic,
    I saw the play and Grover didn't deserve a red for it.
     
  16. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Grover knows. Lawson was with DCU preseason, not there now.
     
  17. LittleMaradona

    Feb 25, 2001
    Maybe the ref that red-carded him has the same sentiments towards Grover as you do.
     
  18. HartwickFan

    HartwickFan Member

    Jul 31, 1999
    Climax, MI
    Club:
    VfR Wormatia 08 Worms
    Nat'l Team:
    Tuvalu
    Well said. I actually thought the bigger douchebags were the posters who were so quick to rip the guy a new asshole.
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He probably shouldn't have shoveled so much bullsh**.

    Also, Jamie Watson posted, I know for sure, in the past. I don't know if he still does now that he's a pro.
     
  20. HartwickFan

    HartwickFan Member

    Jul 31, 1999
    Climax, MI
    Club:
    VfR Wormatia 08 Worms
    Nat'l Team:
    Tuvalu
    Well, even if he was shovelling bullshit, it just seemed to me that Grover was being flamed with a rabid ferocity that far surpassed the way other posters who shovel far more bullshit than Grover are treated.

    Ryan Coiner also posts here every now and then (under the name coingoal, IIRC). And at least when it comes to his posts here on BS, he seems to be a far classier guy than Grover.
     
  21. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    I don't think Grover lacks class.

    I think Grover lacks an understanding of the improvements in MLS since he last lived in the states, and overemphasized the negatives of the league. Since he chose not to try to play in MLS, it tended to come off as self-aggrandizing.
     
  22. cldiscodan

    cldiscodan New Member

    Feb 12, 2002
    That old Gibson thread was great! Thanks for the link.

    I think he made many good points although he could have been a little less haughty. His perspective, however, was very useful to see.
     

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