Group E discussion (JPN, CAN, GBR, CHI)

Discussion in '2020 Women's Olympics Soccer' started by lil_one, Jul 19, 2021.

  1. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The tournament is starting soon, and so I'm opening some group discussion threads. I decided to go with the same format as in the past for the Olympics: threads for each group during the group stage and then we'll do individual match threads in the knockout rounds.

    All times are local.

    21 July 2021
    16:30: Great Britain vs Chile (Sapporo Dome)
    19:30: Japan vs Canada (Sapporo Dome)

    24 July 2021
    16:30: Chile vs Canada (Sapporo Dome)
    19:30: Japan vs Great Britain (Sapporo Dome)

    27 July 2021
    20:00: Chile vs Japan (Miyagi Stadium, Rifu)
    20:00: Canada vs Great Britain (Kashima Stadium)
     
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  2. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Lol, we can count on you, @lil_one, both here and on the US boards, hmm? ;)

    I'd say that, for what concerns Japan's matches most of the live discussion about the single games will happen on the Nadeshiko Japan thread, but probably some of us will drop here to discuss the group in general.
     
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  3. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Are these Olympics matches going to be televised or live-streamed anywhere in the U.S., does anyone know?

    I'm certainly keen to see Japan v. Great Britain, which should be an excellent match--and Canada versus both of those teams should be competitive as well. This is quite a strong group.
     
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  4. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In my opinion there is no doubt whatsoever that this is the toughest of the three groups at these Olympics and the only one where I'd say that each team, even Chile (especially because of Christiane Endler), have a shot at advancing.
     
  5. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the US? The NBC family of networks is televising all of the opening day matches live. So, the Great Britain vs Chile game will be at 3:30 am ET on the Olympic channel, and the Japan vs Canada game at 6:30 ET on NBCSN. All matches will stream live on the NBC Olympics website.

    https://www.nbcolympics.com/news/how-watch-soccer-tokyo-olympics
     
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  6. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Refs appointments

    Great Britain - Chile

    Referee
    (RWA) MUKANSANGA Salima

    Assistant Referee 1
    (MAW) KWIMBIRA Bernadettar

    Assistant Referee 2
    (KEN) NJOROGE Mary

    4th Official
    (NGR) MADU Ndidi

    Video Assistant Referee (VAR)
    (QAT) AL MARRI Abdulla

    Assistant VAR (AVAR)
    (SGP) BIN JAHARI Muhammad

    Japan - Canada

    Referee
    (BRA) ALVES Edina

    Assistant Referee 1
    (BRA) BACK Neuza

    Assistant Referee 2
    (ECU) AMBOYA Monica

    4th Official
    (MRI) RIVET Maria

    Video Assistant Referee (VAR)
    (BRA) REWAY Wagner

    Assistant VAR (AVAR)
    (POR) MARTINS Tiago
     
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  7. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I must admit I would have preferred for this group some of the "big names" that will referee the other groups, the likes of Venegas, that I always found excellent.

    Although it's true that I tend not to remember many of the referees standing even just below the very top-ones. For instance, it's the Rwandan referee assigned to GBR-CHI a debutant in a big senior-level tournament? I don't remember her from previous ones.
     
  8. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Alves (BRA) is excellent ref. She may be given Final match if Brazil team won't make to the final.
     
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  9. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, she was at the 2019 WWC. She only did one match as a center referee (Sweden-Thailand game) though in addition to one 4O appointment.
     
  10. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Small note on the 2 fourth officials here. They are both listed as support referees on the full referee list, so we'll only see them as 4ths (and the women's tournament needs the support officials because otherwise the center referees will be run ragged).

    Also Ndidi Patience Madu is from Nigeria, which is NGA not NGR (so as not to be confused with Niger, I guess).
     
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  11. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Well... thats copy-paste without double check. My bad. :oops:
     
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  12. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Using the FIFA (Elo-ish) Ratings

    Japan (rating 1942 +100 homefield advantage) expected win pct (.613) over Canada (rating 1962)
    Great Britain (using England's 1974 rating) expected win pct (.884) over Chile (1622)

    Using performance ratings since 1/1/2020:

    Canada (performance rating 1960) is ever-so-slight favorite (. 526) over Japan (performance rating 1842 + 100 homefield advantage)
    Great Britain (using England's performance rating 1854) expected win pct (.788) over Chile (performance rating 1626)

    I've been calling Group E the Endler-Times because the big wild-card factor which could end a team's hopes for advancing as a 3rd place finisher is, of course, Chile's goalkeeper, Christiane Endler
     
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  13. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree Alves is generally excellent. She wasn't firm enough when confronted with a cynical, even dirty team like China in the 2019 World Cup, but of course we don't expect that kind of problem in Japan vs Canada. Janine Beckie only looks like she's going to do mean things (tee-hee!)
     
  14. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  15. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  16. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  17. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  18. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  19. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    What was the Canada player doing? The Japan keeper is miles from her goal, and it's a goal if the Canada player just lofts the ball at the goal. Instead, she decides to pass the ball and the opportunity for a second goal is lost--and this after a 2nd goal by Canada is called off by an offside call--and no replay is seen.
     
  20. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  21. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
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    Canada-Japan ends 1-1.

    Neither of the two teams did impress me, but everyone should admit that Sinclair and Iwabuchi sure make for a high quality scoreboard. :)
     
  22. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Happy for the Team GB players. They tried to play more football that I expected, less long balling.
     
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  23. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Agreed. I expected more from Japan at home, but they might grow throughout the tournament.
     
  24. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Or crash out of it. :unsure:
     
  25. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    GB team lineup is quite interesting. Playing Stanway in that role might work with Bronze on that side. Will be intriguing to see how they do against Japan.
     

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