Group D Photo Galary (Part 3)

Persian_Prince · May 8, 2006

CheveLoco said:

they were one of the worst teams in the WC history? well then that speas even worse about Iran, in those qualifiers Iran beat them just 2-0 at home and all they could do is tie them playing away...

hahaha didn't you just post that Iran was better than Mexico because Iran beat US in 1998 and the US beats Mexico? you just owned yourself right there
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Loco, your name fits you well. My whole argument has been that past results mean nothing. I used the Iran-USA-Mexico argument to prove your buddy sombrero wrong. But you have eaten too many beans and can't understand that argument. Let the gas out of your skull and let your pea brain breathe a bit.

CheveLoco · May 8, 2006

Persian_Prince said:

Loco, your name fits you well. My whole argument has been that past results mean nothing. I used the Iran-USA-Mexico argument to prove your buddy sombrero wrong. But you have eaten too many beans and can't understand that argument. Let the gas out of your skull and let your pea brain breathe a bit.
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were you trying to come out with a funny insult? that sure was a lame attempt but expected...you're what? the third Iran fan who just comes out with some kind of bean "joke" when you can't find anything to be said...very predictable

ShaRule · May 9, 2006

Team melli training in Switserland!

Manoro3 · May 9, 2006

Persian_Prince said:

Loco, your name fits you well. My whole argument has been that past results mean nothing. I used the Iran-USA-Mexico argument to prove your buddy sombrero wrong. But you have eaten too many beans and can't understand that argument. Let the gas out of your skull and let your pea brain breathe a bit.
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Past results matter, not in and of themselves, but they do matter when we're talking about soccer at the level of federations and countries.

The national teams at this World Cup don't exist in a vacuum, they come from a context, a continuous environment that is connected to the past. From the last 20 years we've been able to observe that the Mexican federation has been able to consistently produce the right kind of players, and hire the right kinds of coaches to make it to the knockout stages. In fact it's the only team in this group that has seen the knockout stages during the natural lives of most of the people in this forum (Portugal hasn't been there since 66) Making a World Cup team is a project, and the knowledge you gain from doing it right doesn't vanish into thin air after the WC is over. The big countries like Brazil and Italy don't perform well at WC's because each time they're lucky enough to have a good team come together, they produce this team with the knowledge built on past successes, and lay the foundation for future successes.

As regards to the Iran and Mexico comparison, Mexico has proven it knows how to handle everything that a knockout round worthy team entails, including a domestic league that can produce players capable of accomplishing this objective, the behind-the-scenes management of players in psychological and financial terms, everything that plays a role.

Persian_Prince · May 9, 2006

Manoro3 said:

Past results matter, not in and of themselves, but they do matter when we're talking about soccer at the level of federations and countries.

The national teams at this World Cup don't exist in a vacuum, they come from a context, a continuous environment that is connected to the past. From the last 20 years we've been able to observe that the Mexican federation has been able to consistently produce the right kind of players, and hire the right kinds of coaches to make it to the knockout stages. In fact it's the only team in this group that has seen the knockout stages during the natural lives of most of the people in this forum (Portugal hasn't been there since 66) Making a World Cup team is a project, and the knowledge you gain from doing it right doesn't vanish into thin air after the WC is over. The big countries like Brazil and Italy don't perform well at WC's because each time they're lucky enough to have a good team come together, they produce this team with the knowledge built on past successes, and lay the foundation for future successes.

As regards to the Iran and Mexico comparison, Mexico has proven it knows how to handle everything that a knockout round worthy team entails, including a domestic league that can produce players capable of accomplishing this objective, the behind-the-scenes management of players in psychological and financial terms, everything that plays a role.
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I agree with much of what you're saying. You took my note above a bit too literally. Of course I know that past perfromances do matter. My point was that you can not base the future on what has happened in the past. Just because Mexico has done well in previous WC's does not guarantee them a place in the quarter or semi finals. They still have to face teams which could surprise them. What I say surprise, I mean on paper.

The same argument could be used to say just because this is Iran's third WC outing does not mean you can count Iran out before the games begin. In '78 Iran experienced her first WC. There we lost two games and tied one. In our second WC experience in '98, we lost two and won one. We played two admirable games out of three, winning one. This is our third outing, and this team has improved dramatically over the '98 team. There are reasons why some of us Iranians are very hopeful for our chances. I, for one, am not saying Iran has a good chances of moving into the knockout stages because of where I was born, but because I actually analyze each and every game Iran plays. Mine is not a blind love, there are reasons for my adamancy in what I'm saying.

Persian_Prince · May 9, 2006

CheveLoco said:

were you trying to come out with a funny insult? that sure was a lame attempt but expected...you're what? the third Iran fan who just comes out with some kind of bean "joke" when you can't find anything to be said...very predictable
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I can tell you liked that one. Fact of the matter is that there is nothing wrong with beans, but since you're sensitive to it; beans beans beans beans beans, and more beans...

Piedraias · May 9, 2006

beans are an excellent source of lean protein and very high in iron.

Manoro3 · May 9, 2006

Rockaias said:

beans are an excellent source of lean protein and very high in iron.
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True that, repped lol

ipaman · May 9, 2006

you can't forget france '98 and then france '02.

CheveLoco · May 9, 2006

Persian_Prince said:

I can tell you liked that one. Fact of the matter is that there is nothing wrong with beans, but since you're sensitive to it; beans beans beans beans beans, and more beans...
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oh yeah they're good..

now i hope one day you like soccer as much as you like talking about beans and actually learn a lil bit more...or at least enough to keep a conversation without trying to be a failed comedian..

NitroGuy · May 9, 2006

=Today May 9, Mexico's President VICENTE FOX Flaged Mexico's National Team.. here are some pics.

el chingon · May 10, 2006

huiqui looks really black in that last picture

Persian_Prince · May 10, 2006

CheveLoco said:

oh yeah they're good..

now i hope one day you like soccer as much as you like talking about beans and actually learn a lil bit more...or at least enough to keep a conversation without trying to be a failed comedian..
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I have stated facts, football and bean facts. I like both, and am not sensitive to either. I will not insult people, that's just not me. I ask that you do the same. I have nothing against Mexicans, and have no reason to. Some of my best employees are Mexican and I have close relationships with all of them. I do, however, despise insults to whole people, that includes religious insults.

I'm all ears and very willing to discuss football.

Ali_reza · May 13, 2006

Iran's "Unoffical" world cup 2006 adidass cleats. Looks like adidass has made these for all the teams.

They look realy nice.

Persian_Prince · May 13, 2006

Alireza_k said:

Iran's "Unoffical" world cup 2006 adidass cleats. Looks like adidass has made these for all the teams.

They look realy nice.
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I doubt that Adidas will be making the shoes for Iran, since Iran's jersies are made by Puma. But the shoes look nice.

ShaRule · May 13, 2006

Persian_Prince said:

I doubt that Adidas will be making the shoes for Iran, since Iran's jersies are made by Puma. But the shoes look nice.
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ALL 32 TEAMS of the wc will get those shoes!!

Persian_Prince · May 13, 2006

ShaRule said:

ALL 32 TEAMS of the wc will get those shoes!!
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32 teams wearing Iran shoes!

Kidding, thanks, that settles it.

CheveLoco · May 13, 2006

they look nice i like them...and hey have Mexico's color...now if only it didn't have Iran on them i would buy them hehe..pretty cool

Ali_reza · May 13, 2006

CheveLoco said:

they look nice i like them...and hey have Mexico's color...now if only it didn't have Iran on them i would buy them hehe..pretty cool
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Don't worry, the one with mexico on it exists too.

CheveLoco · May 13, 2006

same design too?

ShaRule · May 13, 2006

CheveLoco said:

same design too?
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http://www.soccer.com/IWProductSearc...Product _name

I think Mexico's is too much..

Carlillos2theMex · May 13, 2006

ShaRule said:

I think Mexico's is too much..
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I like Iran's better

CheveLoco · May 13, 2006

i like the iran one better

salcido5 · May 13, 2006

is there any more pictures of the mexico ones ive looked all over ofr them and i cant find them anywhere

i lik ethe iran ones better

the mexico ones need to have more red and white

that light green line ruins it as well

el chingon · May 14, 2006

yea i dont like the shoe that much either, they should take out that light green, and add more white and red