Group B - 2022 FIFA WCQ – AFC Second Round

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  1. Suren01

    Suren01 Member+

    Apr 9, 2012
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Iraq
    Group B: Australia, Jordan, Chinese Taipei, Kuwait, Nepal.
     
  2. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Two teams we are pretty familiar with, one team we haven't played since our OFC days and another who we have never played. We've drawn a team in Kuwait that would have been in a higher pot if not for a suspension and we get them first up away in what will be a difficult match I think. If we play well consistently this group is winnable, but if we don't we could end up missing out altogether.
     
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  3. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Australia's first home game against Nepal will be in Canberra. Generally at this stage the qualifiers get sent around the country with the last one in either Sydney or Melbourne. Usually some smaller places get a look in in round one.
     
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  4. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
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    Announced this morning.
     
  5. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Update of results from 1st couple of games

    Chinese Taipei 1 Jordan 2
    Kuwait 7 Nepal 0
    Chinese Taipei 0 Nepal 2
    Kuwait 0 Australia 3

    Table

    Kuwait 3 points (+4GD)
    Australia 3 points (+3GD)
    Nepal 3 pts (+1GD)
    J
    ordan 3 pts (+1GD)
    Chinese Taipei 0 pts (-9GD)
     
  6. thewitness

    thewitness Member

    Melbourne Victory, Derby County
    Australia
    Jul 10, 2013
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Aussies got the job done in Kuwait, didn't look that impressive but a solid result. Jordan in Jordan will be the big challenge, I think the rest of the games will be relatively simple.
     
  7. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I agree with you about the biggest challenge but we also need to treat the other teams and matches with the proper respect and by that I mean do the right research and preparation and not think its just a formality. Last cycle in the final group we identified the biggest challenges and negotiated them OK only to drop points in games we thought we would win.
     
  8. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Australia 5 Nepal 0
    Jordan 0 Kuwait 0

    Australia move to the top of Group B with 6 points from 2 games. Kuwait have 4 points from 3 games and Jordan 4 points from 2 games. Nepal have 3 from 3 and Chinese Taipei have lost their two opening games.

    Next week Chinese Taipei host Australia and Jordan host Nepal. If Australia and Jordan win then it pretty much means the group winner will likely come from one of these two, Kuwait will likely come second or 3rd and the other two teams will need miracles.
     
  9. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Chinese Taipei 1 Australia 7
    Jordan 3 Nepal 0

    Australia 9 (+14)
    Jordan 7 (+4)
    Kuwait 4 (+4)
    Nepal 3 (-13)
    Chinese Taipei 0 (-9)

    Jordan host Australia to complete the first half of the matches and Kuwait host Chinese Taipei. If Australia can take 3 points in Jordan it makes it very hard for anyone else to win the group. If the two hosts win then the group really tightens up between the top three.
     
  10. Fureeku

    Fureeku Member

    Feb 9, 2011
    Maldives
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Maldives
    Apparently there's a bit of a messy situation in this group.

    Nepal have no stadiums that fit AFC's standards to host official internationals after the 2015 earthquake, and were unable to complete renovation works at their Dashrath Stadium in time for their qualifier against Kuwait.

    AFC approved ANFA's offer to host the match in Bhutan, but Kuwait are throwing a strop now. They obviously don't fancy playing at high altitude below 10 degrees, and it will be interesting if AFC gives in to the Kuwait FA's demands.
     
  11. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Jordan 0 Australia 1
    Kuwait 9 Chinese Taipei 0

    Australia have a 5 point lead at the half way mark with 3 of their remaining 4 matches at home. Kuwait hold second spot on goal difference over Jordan.
     
  12. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Nepal 0 Kuwait 1
    Jordan 5 Chinese Taipei 0

    Australia 12
    Kuwait 10
    Jordan 10
    Nepal 3
    Chinese Taipei 0

    Looks tight at the top on paper but Australia have a game in hand and 3 home games to go. Australia's home record in WCQ shows only 1 loss in 38 years and that was in a dead rubber when the Olympic team took the field as a warm up for the Beijing Olympics. This group has two weaker teams at the bottom and unless they pull off some upsets the second placed team should be able to qualify as well. Kuwait play Australia away and Jordan at home on the next match days and I think how these results go will decide the group standings.
     
  13. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Remaining games to be played in Kuwait in June. Makes it a bit easier for Kuwait but I think they will still need to win their last 3 games to have a chance of topping the group.
     
  14. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kuwait in June? Good gosh, it's not like it's hot or anything like that that time of year......
     
  15. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    We would have been ideal hosts in normal times but unfortunately we are unlikely to have opened our international borders meaning players would have to undergo a two week quarantine before they would have been allowed to play. Hopefully some of the evenings will be more bearable and the second string squad members rise to the occasion. Its four matches for us in a fortnight which will be tough if we don't rotate the players around.
     
  16. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Nepal 2 Chinese Taipei 0
    Australia 3 Kuwait 0

    Table
    Australia 15 (+18)
    Kuwait 10 (+11)
    Jordan 10 (+8)
    Nepal 6 (-12)
    Chinese Taipei 0 (-25)

    Hard to see Australia not topping the group at this stage, although nothing is certain these days. Australia's next two games are against Chinese Taipei and Nepal. One win means Kuwait can't win the group, and two wins mean Jordan can't win the group either. The Kuwait-Jordan game on June 11 may well decide second spot. Jordan have a game in hand over Kuwait.
     
  17. Live_Football23

    Real Madrid
    Iraq
    Dec 7, 2020
    That Jordan-Kuwait game likely will have huge implications for other teams. I think a draw would probably eliminate both teams, as I can’t see Jordan getting a result against Australia, although you never know as Australia has had problems dealing with Jordan in the past.
     
  18. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I agree that a draw in the Kuwait/Jordan game will make it harder for either side to be one of the second placed teams. Jordan's chances against us may be increased in the last game depending on the Australian team selected. There is no doubt that we will need to rotate players as four games in 12 days in the summer heat of Kuwait will drain the players strength and energy. If we have already won the group we may see players who haven't had a lot of game time in the previous 3 games start the match.
     
  19. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Jordan 3 Nepal 0
    Australia 5 Chinese Taipei 1

    A side note, the only goals Australia have conceded so far in this group have been against Chinese Taipei.

    Australia 18 (+22)
    Jordan 13 (+11)
    Kuwait 10 (+11)
    Nepal 6 (-15)
    Chinese Taipei 0 (-29)

    Australia in the box seat here but not guaranteed. A loss or draw against Nepal, a loss to Jordan and a win by Jordan against Kuwait could see Jordan top the group. Kuwait need to win their last two and hope Jordan can't beat Australia to get second. At worst they go to Asian Cup qualifying group stage. Nepal needs to beat Australia to have a chance of getting to the Asian Cup group qualifying but are more likely to join Chinese Taipei in the playoff round (best 4 4th place teams go to group stage, others to playoff round). I think a draw by Australia against Nepal will also be enough to finish as one of the best 5 second place teams.
     
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  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Australia won the group. Kuwait is eliminated because they can pass Jordan for second, but Kuwait cannot be one of the best five second place teams. Jordan will probably advance if they beat Australia. If Jordan draws or loses, they need help.
     
  21. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    #21 almango, Jun 15, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2021
    Australia 1 Jordan
    Kuwait 2 Chinese Taipei 1

    Australia 24 (+26)
    Kuwait 14 (+12)
    Jordan 14 (+10)
    Nepal 6 (-18)
    Chinese Taipei 0 (-30)

    Australia WCQ round 3 and Asian Cup 2023
    Kuwait and Jordan ACQ group stage
    Nepal and Chinese Taipei ACQ play offs

    The two draws that Kuwait and Jordan played against each other eventually cost them a "best second" spot.
     

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