Gringos worried we might leave

It's not going to happen. The only way I see it happening is if Concacaf & Comebolas is eliminated for Concabolas. I just can't see it, FIFA would not approve.

 

Does FIFA have to approve? As far as I know they don't have any power over members accepted into a confederation. I mean, otherwise, why didn't Gibraltar appeal to FIFA instead of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) when UEFA wouldn't let them join?

 

I like us in the Conc. But I did hear the Copa America might change it up by having 9 south american teams and 7 concacaf (maybe more or less)

 

We should do it, I think Conmebol would take us but lets face it the FMF don't have balls to do it.

 

But it's only for the centennial. I haven't heard anyone say that it is a permanent format change.

I would rather Mexico move to CONMEBOL and play the official games there but still keep their marketing contracts and play friendlies in the US. Get quality playing time in one, train the up and coming players in the other.

 

I don't see how a move to Conmebol would benefit us tbh

We got the best of both world

We play copa america and libertadores but don't have to go through the pain that is south american QF'rs. Why would we want to change that? The Femex would be retarded to throw away our guaranteed WC spot

 

You got no faith in the team! Blasphemer! How dare you insinuate that Mexico wouldn't qualify for every WC tournament if they moved to CONMEBOL!
j/k

But, all kidding aside. It's not like Mexico would have no shot of qualifying every tournament. Copa America runs prove they can qualify. Yes, it would be harder but that is exactly the point. In my opinion, to be the best, you have to play against the best. That is certainly not in CONCACAF. If Mexico switches, we can still have the best of both worlds.

 

In what way? Right now we are guaranteed a WC birth every single time. We are the "big dog" of Concacaf, in Conmebol we would be Chile.

I agree that Conmebol is a big step up in the competition and would force us to take a more serious approach, but we would risk a WC birth(and things like olympics,confederations) How many coaches did we go through last cycle? you can't get away with that in conmebol. Look how much we struggle in away games against concacaf opponents, now imagine having to have to fly all the way to south america to play in la paz, quito, montevideo, etc..

No thanks.

Yea, it might sound like i'm taking a "mediocre" approach, but joining conmebol makes no sense for us.

 

I'm not saying that we wouldn't qualify in conmebol, it's just that were in a very privileged position right now and giving it up would be stupid.

Australia moved to Asia so they could actually play for a guaranteed WC spot and not just .5, we don't have to worry about that.

We play conmebol torunaments and dont have to go through the hell that is south american qualifiers

win win

 

Nothing is guaranteed, even in CONCACAF. Didn't we almost fail to qualify this last World Cup? So much for the "big dog" guarantee.

All teams struggle in away games. Or are saying it is one-way? Mexico would struggle in South America, but all their teams would have an easy time in Mexico?

No, I'm fairly certain any disadvantages caused by traveling would affect both the SA teams in Mexico as much as traveling would affect Mexico in SA.

So, I still think we can have the best of both worlds.

 

That's the whole point. Even going through the hugo and sven novela we were able to qualify out of concacaf.. that wouldn't happen in conmebol

concacaf is set up to benefit us and the nads period

No doubt teams would struggle coming to Mexico but it would be us that would be hurt the most. Every away game would mean travelling to a different continent and dealing with a big change of weather

Tell me one thing we would gain from a move to conmebol? i mean the competition would be tougher but that can be a double edged sword

 

Very assertive post.
Although, sincerely I don`t know if to feel offended, or flatered as well.
But for truth, objectively speaking, I don`t think you would really be more or less, than us (maybe right at top of us at present times as last friendly games have gone in your favour). Anyhow, given our current position at south, we would still be both making it to the WC, if it were the case. (If this was the case of the gri.n..g......s, .......na..d....mmmm, .....ehhh.........., lets just say "them", , they probably would be struggling, not to end as last)

But as you must know, everybody back in Conmebol pass through continued cycles, where sometimes who appear as being bad teams, suddenly become powerful ones and afterwards become weak again, in an almost never ending story. You guys would just be another team, dancing up to the same tune, as everybody else. is. But whenever your team gets to be at top, back here, it automatically transforms you in a "big Mastiff or a Rottweiler" in football, even for European teams, as the level of the game, despite being weak, whenever it is weak, at the end remains being high. While at Concacaf, you may be the "top dog", but given Concacaf's level, you end up being nothing more than a "Chihuahua with big teeth". If you really want everybody else to give you a well deserved respect, you must be the best among the best.

 

Nah, we're a few steps ahead of Chile.

 

Friendly games only give you an edge of the real thing. A WC qualifier, as the one we have here in Conmebol on the other hand, sure separates who is better or who is worse. Not playing in any big tournament or WC qualifier, only leaves you opinions of who is better than the other.

In my case, I believe you guys only are "a quarter of a step" above us at present times, but as you look at it, it`s not so much, with just one brilliant move, and it`s us who get to be ahead (simple opinion in any case). Anyhow I didn`t come here to troll you guys around. There`s plenty of other forums around the place, to do so.

 

Listen ******** i meant anyone other than brazil and argentina. I said Chile but you could easily replace that with Paraguay, Colombia, whatever..

Brazil and Argentina run Conmebol just like we do Concacaf

 

(I wasn`t going to troll, but given your nice expression, I must answer you in the same way)

Sure.
It was only yesterday that Jackie "brown" Warner, forced you guys to present yourself in last Copa America, with under 23`s, to make a fool of yourselves (even Peru had their fun against you guys). Oh yes, we beat your teens back then, but given how they formed the team, it really doesn`t count.

Who`s next one in charge ?,
maybe Chuckie or that Leslie guy, one thing for certain, given Mexico`s position in Concacaf, all you are up to, it is to wag your tail happily to whatever they decide you guys to do, unless of course they also decide to cut off your tail and force you to wear a pink ribbon on your head.......

 

Meanwhile in chile

 

no se enjome mi shilenoo

mejor corre a ver si ya puso la gallina

 

Based on your previous posts in this thread, it seems there is only one thing you value, and that is a WC berth. There is nothing else I can say if that is all you value. So, since we wouldn't get two WC berth's by moving to CONMEBOL, you are right, there is nothing we would gain. But, it isn't a sure thing that we would lose a WC berth either, we would just have to fight harder for it.

Besides the WC berth, other items of value to me are (in no particular order):
1) Able to compete with full squads in CONMEBOL tournaments, no interference from UEFA and CONCACAF
2) Not having to deal with all the Carribean FA's (and CONCACAF leadership in general). By this I mean that it is a pretty one-sided affair, they take and take and don't give us anything in return. (Although someone on this website mentioned that there had been a reason we combined into CONCACAF; that we stood something to gain by it at one time. Wish I knew what that was, they never explained.)
3) More professional games (less hacking a la Central American teams)
4) We would be better tested for the WC. (yes, "if" we get there.)
5) More money for the federation.
6) FIFA ranking would improve. CONMEBOL matches are worth more points than CONCACAF matches. FIFA rankings mean possibility of being a seed in the World Cup.

I'm sure there are other benefits but those are just the ones I can think of at the moment.

 

So, hypothetically speaking, how would this come about and how long would this take to happen if we were to leave CONCACAF? Has it happened before?

 

Based on your previous posts in this thread, it seems there is only one thing you value, and that is a WC berth. There is nothing else I can say if that is all you value. So, since we wouldn't get two WC berth's by moving to CONMEBOL, you are right, there is nothing we would gain. But, it isn't a sure thing that we would lose a WC berth either, we would just have to fight harder for it.

Besides the WC berth, other items of value to me are (in no particular order):
1) Able to compete with full squads in CONMEBOL tournaments, no interference from UEFA and CONCACAF

Legitimate point

2) Not having to deal with all the Carribean FA's (and CONCACAF leadership in general). By this I mean that it is a pretty one-sided affair, they take and take and don't give us anything in return. (Although someone on this website mentioned that there had been a reason we combined into CONCACAF; that we stood something to gain by it at one time. Wish I knew what that was, they never explained.)

lol Grondonas bunch is just as bad as concacafs

3) More professional games (less hacking a la Central American teams)

Clearly you're not familiar with the way of south american qualifying

4) We would be better tested for the WC. (yes, "if" we get there.)

How has being "better tested" for the WC worked out for every other team not named Argentina or Brazil?


5) More money for the federation.

Maybe.

6) FIFA ranking would improve. CONMEBOL matches are worth more points than CONCACAF matches. FIFA rankings mean possibility of being a seed in the World Cup.

Being in concacaf has not really hurt us in that respect. i mean we were cabeza de serie in 06

I'm sure there are other benefits but those are just the ones I can think of at the moment.

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My main point is that a move to conembol would just increase the difficulty of everything

Things like the confederation cup, olympics, youth wcs would be harder to reach in conmebol.. now yes one can say that there is more merit in qualifying from conmebol, but i'd rather actually participate in those competitions than have moral victories by just putting a good showing in qualifying.

it's not exactly like the south americans would welcome us with open hands either.

We're doing fine in concacaf, we don't need to go to conmebol and be the little black sheep