Grilla en Cruz Azul

Discussion in 'Mexico' started by MurderCityDevil, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. MurderCityDevil

    MurderCityDevil New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Arizona/SLRC
    Un increible articulo en ESPN deportes http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/story?id=214188tienes algunas cosas que yo no sabia. Me parece que Meza no va estar mucho mas en la Noria. Creo que Cruz Azul va valorar a Chelito mas que a Meza, y trairan algun tecnico argentino, probablemente a Basile o alguien asi. Quien iba a decir que este equipo seria destruido por grillas como estas?

    Incluso, no sabia que Cruz Azul tenia esta regla, que no mas de 2 argentinos en un equipo, me parece increible.

    Finalmente, no mire el partido de Cruz Azul este fin de semana, y pues que paso entre Osorio y el Chelito???
     
  2. Aguilas Del America

    Oct 28, 2002
    Nido de Coapa
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Osorio and Delgado have never liked each other. I remember 'El Doctor Zeta' on Radio Unica interviewing Osorio right after the Argentina-Bolivia game @ the Eliminatorias. There were rumours at the time that there were several Serie A clubs interested in his services. They asked Osorio what he thought of the rumours and he said "Que se valla a Italia".
     
  3. Aguilas Del America

    Oct 28, 2002
    Nido de Coapa
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    During the Cruz Azul-Atlante game, Cruz Azul were down 1-0 and Atlante almost scored again but Perez knocked the ball outside for a Corner Kick. Cesar Delgado was pissed, the defense was killing the team. He then told Osorio something and Osorio got pissed, Perez pushed Cesar back and told him to calm down.
     
  4. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    The Cruz Azul locker room problems have been there for quite a while now. It is my undertsnading that the locker room is divided into diffrent clicks. so i say it would be unfair just to blame the foreign players.. Last season Abreu took all the blame and as far as i know he never started any problems at America or even Tecos. Now it seems as if Cesar Delgado is being blamed. What Cruz Azul needs is a real ballsy manager not a coach like Meza that gets teary eyed during press interviews.
     
  5. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Exactly VS. I've been saying that for ages now. Meza was the wrong choice. Meza and his wimpy approach (even though he's a nice guy) is not what the team needs. The old click (Tomas Campos, Jose Hernandez, Melvyn Brown) needs to go. These guys are just so-so players that have given all they have and it's not enough.
     
  6. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    LA-PUEN-TE

    He's probably not being considered for the job though.

    Meza sucks.
     
  7. Aguilas Del America

    Oct 28, 2002
    Nido de Coapa
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    DAAMN im starting to feel sorry for Meza.
     
  8. AMEPUNKANIST

    AMEPUNKANIST Member+

    Dec 16, 2003
    Club:
    America Propria
    i felt sorry him during when he was a coach in el tri..then atlas ..and now cruz azul..poor guy.After la sel.nacional..things haven't been the same for him.
     
  9. cadblur

    cadblur New Member

    Jan 8, 2004
    Edinburgh,UK
    Meza is a nice guy! No doubt about that! but as a coach he seems to be lacking something big time.
    I remember when the TRI came to play against England. He was asked about what he though of the England trainer... He didn't even knew his name!!! How come he didn't knew about Sven Goran Eriksson ??? A world reknown coach! And the team's coach he was going to play for Christ's sakes.
    Can someone explain me how is he going to prepare if he doesn't even know the coach let alone the tactics.


    I remember the hammering! All with the same play ball to Beckham, Beckham a long ball to Owen behind Oteo, who as you expect struggled A LOT to catch Owen. Meza didn't either change Oteo who sucked big time or told the defence to move behaind and not give Owen acres of space. Or just deal with Beckhman to cut the service.

    It was amazing. So naive !!!!

    I think he was a success in Toluca because the conditions were ALL right and it happened that his tactic worked with wonderful players like Cardozo!

    He was SO narrow minded his though in the NT was I put ALL my Mexican Toluca players and replace the likes of Cardozo with ... De Nigris ?

    But enough about the dark time of the TRI and Meza.

    Where I am going is to say he WAS NOT and he IS STILL NOT the appropiate coach for Cruz Azul.

    But I think the problem goes beyong Meza, every year a crisis seems to happen.

    After winning the championship.

    The directiva fired Luis Fernando Tena ... (because he lost a final ???)

    Then after the run in Copa Libertadores they fired Jose Luis Trejo ... because they though that "Capello" was the best thing sice sliced bread ????

    About "Capello" ... he sucks big time.

    And then Meza ... What were the directivos thinking when they hired him ???
     
  10. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Meza Out
     
  11. cadblur

    cadblur New Member

    Jan 8, 2004
    Edinburgh,UK
    Creo que ya le voy encontrando la cuadratura al circulo. Me encontre esto en el Universal.

    na institución como Cruz Azul no merece lo que le estamos haciendo. Se culpa a los Directivos, Entrenador y Jugadores, amén de las actitudes de la afición hacia el equipo. Me explico: La Directiva toma actitudes dignas de Fox o, peor aún, del PRI, teniendo un nepotismo, o favoritismo por lo menos, descarado. Victor Garcés ha hecho y deshecho del equipo lo que se le da la gana, eso incluye su mediocridad como directivo de la FMF, y Billy siendo su cómplice, para muestra un botón, ¿Por qué se trajo de Pachuca a Marco Garcés? Muy simple, porque es su sobrino, siendo que lo que necesita el equipo era alguien como Huiqui (¿así se escribe?), Garcés es un jugador mediocre, aún en el campeón Pachuca. Corren rumores de que Garcés es cuñado de Billy (no sería difícil), además de que se corrió a Latorre por abrir la boca contra la Directiva (y andar con la hija de Billy). En descargo de la Directiva, debemos decir que en Cruz Azul siempre se ha tratado a todos los integrantes como personas, cosa que dificilmente ocurre en este país, a cualquier nivel. Al entrenador, nuestro querido Ojitos, eterno suplente de nuestro héroe Miguel Marín, no se le puede reprochar falta de compromiso, dificilmente encontraremos alguien que quiera más al Club. Sin embargo algo le falta, igual que a Tena, Trejo, Carrillo. A ciencia cierta no se que es, pero sospecho que es liderazgo. ¿Por qué nuestro querido equipo no contrata a un entrenador LIDER como Menotti? Meza debería permanaecer en la institución para aprender del liderazgo del Flaco.
     
  12. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
  13. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
    ROTFL

    I was looking for this pic too but had no luck in finding it.

    Thanks VS!
     
  14. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    They were spreading the rumor that the argentineans wanted an argie coach. But I think its BS and that this is just the same thing over and over. This is the 3rd time that Cruz Azul has had a meltdown and none of the foreigners were there last time. The players that were are Brown, Campos and Hernandez. The only players doing well are The Delgados and Oscar Perez before the Pachuca mistake. I think that Cruz Azul should start kicking out mexicans. If they again have started a clique against foreigners, then its the same cycle over and over, which would be fine if they played well but they don´t. Campos has sucked and Brown even worse. Last time it endend with Abreu, Pinheiro and the other foreigners getting kicked out along with the coach. One year later its the same thing. They need to fix the team dynamic once and for all.

    Also Luciano Figeroa better get his act together because right now he is the flop of the tourney.
     
  15. Levante

    Levante Member+

    Jul 28, 2001
    Lapuente would straighten that mess out.
     
  16. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Originally posted by Rafael Hernandez

    This is the 3rd time that Cruz Azul has had a meltdown and none of the foreigners were there last time. The players that were are Brown, Campos and Hernandez. The only players doing well are The Delgados and Oscar Perez before the Pachuca mistake. I think that Cruz Azul should start kicking out mexicans.

    These are the same cats that during the player boycot doublecrossed their mates and made a deal with the Cruz Azul directives. I remember hearing an interview with Sergio Almaguer who was the only Mexican not to make a deal with the directiva and talked about the foreigners being used as escapegoats and hinted on the click.. Yehp if i came in as coach my first action would be to send Brown and co to Cruz Azul Hidalgo. That should get the team started back up..
     
  17. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Re: Monkeyboy

    :(
     
  18. cadblur

    cadblur New Member

    Jan 8, 2004
    Edinburgh,UK
    Re: Re: Monkeyboy

    For the first time in their history 5 consecutive defeats! And bottom of the league. Keep the good work "directivos".

    What is the aim? To descend Cruz Azul and promote Cruz-Azul Oaxaca ???

    I think those "youngsters" should really take a look at themselves.


    Directivos keep paying them huge amounts of money... After not accomplishing absolutely anything.
    If I were a "cooperativista" I would be REALLY pissed off. Those "soccer players" earning like 100 times more than them and working 2-3 hours per day and sucking at their job. On the other hand I imagine the "cooperativista" working around ten hours per day of a really tough job!

    P.i.n.c.h.e.s jugadores huevones.
     
  19. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    They need a coach that is not going to take any crap and will cut anyone who gets out of line. I think La Puente would work after all he kept Cuau in line.
     

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