Griffiths vs. Nicol?

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  1. Revs Fan Forever

    Revs Fan Forever New Member

    Aug 8, 2002
    somewhere in MA
    Why did Nicol take Winsto out of the game so early on Wednesday was it because of a miscommunication before the game? Or what.
  2. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    I was kind of surprised by that move also, especially after Pierce was subbed in for Llamosa earlier in the half. Colorado seemed to concentrate more on the other half of the pitch, but Kamler was fairly invisible.
  3. ftballer

    ftballer New Member

    Jan 16, 2002
    Boston, Mass
    nicol still sucks. Can't be happy with a few wins. With this team, we should be at the top of standings. Any decent coach and we'd be playoff bound. Just look at his moves since the may.
  4. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and you back who?
  5. moacir

    moacir New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Figueira da Foz, PT
    Victory is victory, but...

    SN's moves were atrocious:
    1- leave Rusty out
    2- Bring in Invisble man Kamler
    3- Await until TnT was hurt to take him out, when was clear that some Col guys were ready to finish his season.
  6. Bill Duggan

    Bill Duggan New Member

    Aug 17, 2002
    Winston Griffith is not MLS quality right now. He had a horrible star against Colorado and thats why SN took the bum out. He cant pass, cross, or shoot. If he wasnt so fast, he wouldnt be playing.

    Winston was cut twice this season, there is a reason for that. HE SUCKS.
  7. goyette82

    goyette82 Member

    Jan 16, 2000
    Lowell, Ma
    Not to back either groups of people on this subject but he was actually cut because he wasn't a big fan of practice and didn't work to hard in practice. That's the real reason.
  8. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't think Griffiths was good at all against Colorado, but it's not like Brian Kamler came in and covered himself in glory, either.
  9. John Lewis

    John Lewis New Member

    Mar 15, 2000
    The reason Nicol gave for the substitution was tactical. Griffiths was pressed too far forward, and Steve was interested in the team keeping its shape. It's something they work on all the time in practice and preach in pre-match chats. Kamler didn't cover himself in glory because he was told to stay deeper and make sure he had his man marked.

    Griffiths is speedy, and he can dribble, but he looked a little bit clueless about where to put the last pass. On a number of occasions he made great driving runs into the box and then simply gave the ball away not able to anticipate his teammates' runs.

    I think it was a good move...oh, and they won the game, so who am I to second guess.
  10. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Victory is victory, but...

    1. Rusty has been out the past 6 weeks and finally came back against Chicago, I think he would be a little out of shape, enough to not make him play through a 90 minute game
    2. Like John said, it was more of a defensive sub. If you put in Downing, do you expect him to score, no.
    3. If you are going to pull TnT out everytime he gets hacked down, then he would only have about 7 goals on the year. He's use to the hits, this one just hurt a little bit more. When you are in a playoff race, you put your best players out there and you expect then to suck it up. You pull TnT too early, that relieves the pressure off the defense, which allows them to make runs up and possibly come back for a win or tie.
  11. ctsoccer13

    ctsoccer13 Member+

    Mar 25, 2002
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it was a good move taking out Winston. His crosses were horrible and he consistently lost the dribble and didn't come back to defend. At time it looked like we had three forwards walking back toward the defense. Actually, Wolde for once was actually moving back faster than he ever did to make himself available for a pass. But with at three - zero, Twellman should have been subbed. It was obvious Colorado was headhunting and the game was out of reach.
  12. Jim Dow

    Jim Dow New Member

    Mar 20, 1999
    Belmont, MA
    I don't know how Griffiths is in training but in the matches thus far he has displayed fine speed, good dribbling, a willingness to run and very marginal passing and crossing skills. Even though we got three v. the Rapids, the score was only 1-0 when Kamler came in, the team held it's shape much more effectively from that point on and we were able to hold the lead. Remember we have given up three or more goals to the guys three times this season and the came back to win 4-3 last year.

    Griffiths is a work in progress and, hopefully, there will be progress in the posession, passing and crossing departments.

  13. fox point fury

    May 19, 2001
    Is he Sunsing in disguise?
  14. Michael

    Michael New Member

    May 26, 1999
    Hanover, NH 03755

    Worse. Evans Wise.
  15. moacir

    moacir New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Figueira da Foz, PT
    Nailed in the head!

    Perfect, that is exactly the problem. The more the REVs hold their shape the more they will lose. That is why they are in 2nd place from the bottom up.

    The more midfielders there the more losses and less effective Ralston.
  16. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Griffiths is painful to watch. So much hustle and energy, and so out of sync with his teammates.

    Hopefully, this can be worked out with more practice time together.

    I don't think he is another Evans Wise.

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