Alert: Gregg Berhalter Sporting Director and Head Coach Career Deathwatch or should that be "Nut Rider?"

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Oct 8, 2024.

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What happens in the next 24 months with GGG at the helm of our Chicago Fire?

  1. Fire win...the Wooden Spoon in either 2024 or 2025

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  2. Fire still suck in 2025, but make the playoffs in 2026...baby steps

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%
  3. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and 2026, appropriate steps

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
  4. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and make it to MLS Cup 2026

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Fire win it all in 2025!...Take that shit to the Optimism Thread

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  6. Fire win the Leagues Cup...the ONLY cup that matters

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Fire are "allowed" into the US Open Cup and win! Kings of the Cup, baby!

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  8. Gregg uses his amazing contacts and the Fire become USMNT "light" (we have Acosta!)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  9. This is the Chicago Fire, so SOMETHING STUPID HAPPENS!

    15 vote(s)
    75.0%
  10. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    11 vote(s)
    55.0%
  11. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    9 vote(s)
    45.0%
  12. I don't know what will happen, but I am along for the ride. Fire 'til I Die!

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  13. Fire 'til I Die! (or until something better comes along)

    4 vote(s)
    20.0%
  14. We sign two DP for 2025.

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%
  15. We sign at least one great, big name DP for 2025

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  16. That big name is Christian Pulisic (is he a big name? I don't know)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. The wallowers are attacked...again (I hope this does not happen)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  18. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  19. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  20. Gregg flames out and Klopas becomes interim head coach by October 2026

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Nah, it was at HQ and in front of a screen with the VP Sales MC'ing.
     
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  2. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Uno mas...

    Beyond what the club already communicated about Gregg Broughton (“He is a passionate leader with a proven track record of developing talent and building competitive teams. As a key member of our leadership team, Gregg will help establish a high-performance culture to drive sustained success across all areas of the sporting department.”)...

    GGG added GB brings 'significant negotiation and contract structuring experience'...

    Based off of what has been discussed about GB's career, I didn't expect to hear that. Hope he is better at than Heitz!
     
  3. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for additional info.
    Still having problems understanding how Stephens, Broughton and (also) Pelzer will interact with each other and how they will mesh with GGG.
     
  4. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Oh yea, there was a partial unclear comment about MHS and Mueller…
    Something to the effect of ‘decent depth/fill-in players’…
    Got the impression they will stay or be sold/traded, not pushed out.
     
  5. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Thanks overlap for your report. I am pleased GB seemed to at least be up front about a number of things if not everything which is already an improvement. Now just hoping they get all those signings to actually happen and they work/mesh well as a team sooner then later.
     
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  6. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Alright, I left out an interesting one....at least it was to me...

    Someone asked GGG about how much the MLS has changed since his days in Cbus and how different did he thought International play was from club play.

    Regarding MLS maturing, he said something to the effect of 'The tactics and the depth of quality is clearly improved, and still improving. It's an exciting time for the league, as it is now in discussion with how it ranks relative to many of the long established leagues...and it simply wasn't for a long time.'

    Regarding Intl vs club, he said something to the effect of 'I'm really excited to get back to club ball, to be able to develop players and the team! In Intl play the guys would play a game for their club on Sunday, fly on Monday to where ever we would be playing that week, still be recovering on Tuesday, we'd get 1 day of practice on Wednesday and compete on Thursday...there was zero development possible, we just needed everyone to adjust from their club tactics to what we were going to do in our game. Here with the Fire, I'm now going to be able to develop players' skills and mentality...as well as a culture...I can't wait to get to the point we can have a squad that has honed the tactics and plays for each other!'
     
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  7. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Yea, he implied there are a lot of negotiations going on...there was clear a sense of urgency:thumbsup:
     
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  8. It's hard to poke holes in 3G's answers
     
  9. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is obviously heading in the right direction- he is proposing the same things we talk about. Chuckle,chuckle.
     
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  10. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Agreed!

    Only critique I could come up with is that he didn't address how he's going to be effective running the club AND the first team. IMO, it's an unreasonably large scope of responsibility...but if he can assemble a 'functional' front office...we shall see.

    He has grand plans and I applaud that :thumbsup:
     
  11. Yep, like he was reading from this forum.
     
  12. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My best guess is that the three current hires for the “inner circle”- Pelzer,
    Stephens and Broughton- are expected to be major contributors toward solving that problem.
     
  13. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Jim Curtin, bay-bay!
     
  14. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Missing info is the first team coaches and if all need to be told what to do, get permission, or are empowered. Takes chemistry and trust when ‘the boss’ is also ‘in the trenches’. certainly can be done…I’ve done it in a different environment…but it’s all about ‘who’s on the bus’
     
  15. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    If both their egos can fit in the same room and work together, that would be great!
     
  16. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A high-quality coaching staff to assist on that half of the dual position is clearly needed.
     
  17. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Despite the obvious potential for greatness, there are a number of obstacles
    stacked against this occuring, including egos.
    Even if accomplished, it is a relationship that is unlikely to last very long,IMO.
     
  18. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Why do people think Curtin has an unbearable ego? Is this something people talk about?
     
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  19. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    #219 overlap_old_coach, Nov 15, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2024
    Who said "unbearable"?
     
  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Not me…
     
  21. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just a “ normal” amount of ego in them would create an obstacle needed to be overcome if they were to enter into the described scenario.
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It appears that we could have done worst that Gregg Berhalter as head coach.


    FC Dallas name Eric Quill head coach
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/fc-dallas-name-eric-quill-head-coach

    On year as a USL coach
    One year as an MLS assistant coach.
    Another one year stint as a USL coach.

    Now, coach of one of the founding MLS squads.


    Austin FC name Nico Estévez head coach
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/austin-fc-name-nico-estevez-head-coach

    The guy F_C_ Dallas dumped over the summer for sucking so bad was named head coach of Austin.

    Amazingly low ambition for the F_C_s in Texasistan.
     
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  23. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am maintaining an optimistic attitude toward GGG.
     
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  24. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    He hasn't screwed up yet.
    So that is something.
     
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  25. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I sometimes get confused as to whether I am on the Optimism Thread, but it has crossed my, and others, mind that GGG was rather successful with a filthy yellow team that had a lousy, tight purse strings owner. Let's see what he can do with some real backing.
     
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