Alert: Gregg Berhalter Sporting Director and Head Coach Career Deathwatch or should that be "Nut Rider?"

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Oct 8, 2024.

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What happens in the next 24 months with GGG at the helm of our Chicago Fire?

  1. Fire win...the Wooden Spoon in either 2024 or 2025

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    5.0%
  2. Fire still suck in 2025, but make the playoffs in 2026...baby steps

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%
  3. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and 2026, appropriate steps

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
  4. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and make it to MLS Cup 2026

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Fire win it all in 2025!...Take that shit to the Optimism Thread

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  6. Fire win the Leagues Cup...the ONLY cup that matters

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  7. Fire are "allowed" into the US Open Cup and win! Kings of the Cup, baby!

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  8. Gregg uses his amazing contacts and the Fire become USMNT "light" (we have Acosta!)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  9. This is the Chicago Fire, so SOMETHING STUPID HAPPENS!

    15 vote(s)
    75.0%
  10. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    11 vote(s)
    55.0%
  11. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    9 vote(s)
    45.0%
  12. I don't know what will happen, but I am along for the ride. Fire 'til I Die!

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  13. Fire 'til I Die! (or until something better comes along)

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    20.0%
  14. We sign two DP for 2025.

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%
  15. We sign at least one great, big name DP for 2025

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  16. That big name is Christian Pulisic (is he a big name? I don't know)

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  17. The wallowers are attacked...again (I hope this does not happen)

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  18. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  19. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  20. Gregg flames out and Klopas becomes interim head coach by October 2026

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
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  1. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  2. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Title's imply different jobs...I think one is finding them, the other is selling them on being here.
    Granted "Head" implies the scouting function could be "underneath" him...
     
  3. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thanks. Coincides with my thinking but titles can be tricky. Hopefully the actual announcement will tell us more.
     
  4. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
  5. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today’s announcement says “identify, recruit and acquire” players and that he reports directly to GGG. Not much left for Pelzer. He must be going/gone or reporting to Stephens or doing something not involving the roster,IMO. Do you agree?
     
  6. Maybe Pelzer & his family like living in Chicago & don't want to move right now and they're OK keeping him around in some role. Guys like Mitrovic & Talliander stuck around after the bosses that brought them here were gone.
     
  7. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    He gone.
     
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  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Will anyone notice?
     
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  9. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interpreting your response literally, that is a good thing. New broom cleans best.
     
  10. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Hopefully. it will become evident this season.
     
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  11. No word on the set piece coach? For all the good he did any one of us in this forum could have dome as good, if not a better job.
     
  12. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I checked Transfermarkt for Fire coaching, etc personnel. It listed the 3 current
    Board of Directors members as Joe, the COO and Frank Klopas (who was appointed 10-20-24). I do not remember hearing of this appointment. Did I miss it or is this another piece of information the Leagus/Fire was withholding from public to protect strategic secrets?

    (FYI- both Heitz and Pelzer listed there with 12-31-24 contract expiration dates.
    I do not remember seeing this before.)
     
  13. IDK if Transfermarkt has the best info when it comes to senior management. John Urban hasn't been involved in a loooooong time. Dave Baldwin would certainly be on the board and probably CFO Pawel Szynalik and Chief Legal and Administrative Officer Laura Warren. Then depending on how big the board perhaps several outside directors. Finally, 3G could be on the board with Klopas. Heitz would have been on the board and he will still remain on the Lugano board.
     
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  14. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks so much for the correct info.
     
  15. Don't quote me, I'm merely taking an edumacated guess with the top 3 executives listed under Joe on the website. If Klopas is on the board it might mean 3G is left off. There could be surprises too.
     
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  16. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got it. Your info. made more sense than Transfermarkt.
    Guessing GGG is probably on BOD.
    I just never see anything about this topic. Thanks again.
     
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  17. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If anyone is going to the GGG thing tonight can you please give us a report on what went down?
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Was there and will share later…playing in a Texas golden tournament right now:barefoot:

    One thing I heard that would be great to get a second on…I think I heard GGG respond to a question about recruiting with a comment about ‘That’s in Sebastian’
     
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  19. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    #194 overlap_old_coach, Nov 15, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2024
    Thoughts/observations from the "Fireside Chat"...
    1) GGG was personable and yet had a distinct 'air' of experience, competitiveness, and conviction.

    2) He answered everything tactfully and yet more directly than I expected.
    Example: He was asked about who else he was going to get rid of :ROFLMAO: He responded 'Not appropriate to speak in specifics, BUT its clear there are players that have not performed to expectations and won't fit with our plans...so there will be more departures".:coffee:

    3) I asked if he would build the roster with 'best quality available' or 'to fit target tactics'. He responded "We will be running 4-3-3 & 4-2-3-1 and have defined expectations for each position to run it the way we want to run it...and will look to add players with those characteristics"

    4) GGG was asked about who on the roster he plans to build around...Hugo, Guti, & Brady.
    a) He believes with the proper support that Hugo will have a 15 to 20g season
    b) He believes Guti and Brady still have lots of room to grow/improve and will be key pieces.
    c) GGG indicated Acosta has played much much better in the past than he has here, he didn't have a good enough year, and he wants to see him return to form. I was pleased to hear he also saw what I/we saw, and hope he can help him return to form...but certainly sounded like he is on a short leash....improve or move on.
    d) GGG indicated Fede has not fulfilled his potential, but he sees someone with the heart of a lion and believes he is coachable. He will be invested in further.​
    5) GGG indicated we will add DPs (plural!) and big spend U22s. Not sure how that works with roster rules, but he said Joe is fully supportive of the investment and it is what needs to happen to improve the roster.
    a) GGG “we have a lot to improve, but specifically, we need to retool the defense, add a couple dangerous attackers, and a central midfielder”​
    6) GGG was asked about "the pitch" to potential new players...3rd largest market, new world class training center (where the players spend most of their time), ground floor of a program build with a fully supportive owner, and a new development oriented team culture.
    7) GGG was asked about Ludovic Taillandier's departure...despite building a competitive team in their division, the bottomline was he had not achieved development of players from CF2 to the first team. GGG view's THE goal of CF2's coach is to develop players for the first team.
    8) GGG was asked about where he would find players...that's when he mentioned something like 'Sebastian should answer this', but went into some detail.
    a) the EPL is paying so much more than the MLS that young Euros with a shot at the EPL will stay in Europe.
    b) the MLS has matured significantly and is a great development step for young SouthAmerican players trying to get to the EPL.
    c) In general there is a lot of quality across the globe available that is no longer chasing an EPL dream
    d) There are a lot of experienced MLS free agents becoming available.
    9) There was some talk about the record attendance, possible new stadium, and the value/impact of a vibrant game day (a'la Dortmond, Azteca, etc). Having that is like starting a game 1-0. We look to invest in achieving that...and we know it starts with the product on the field.

    I'm sure I'll remember more later, but I'll leave it here with...
    10) GGG "I'm not on a 5yr plan...I'm a very competitive person...we are aiming to win now...it is absolutely achievable and what we are going to do"

    Cheers:cool:
     
  20. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A great post! Thank you so much!
     
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  21. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Excellent recap.
    Thank you very much.

    Sounds like:
    Navarro is staying,
    Acosta is staying
    Hugo is staying
    Gutierrez and Brady are staying.
    That's the core of a decent team. LOTS of holes to fill, though (mentioned in 5a) .

    Gimenez is gone.
    Several other "underperforming" salaries will be shed.
     
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  22. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A remaining unanswered question- What is status/position/duties of Sebastian Pelzer? It sure looks like he is staying.
     
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  23. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    #198 overlap_old_coach, Nov 15, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2024
    I’d like to hear confirmation of how I heard it from anyone else that was there…
    But yea, GGG acknowledged ‘that’s on Sebastian’ and pointed at him in the back of the room.
     
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  24. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Was he actually "fireside"? :confused:
    Either beside a fireplace or beside a Fire player.

    Maybe both, they could use "mighty" Tom Barlow as a yule log.:eek:
     
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  25. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    My pleasure.

    As expected, I've already got other things coming back to mind...

    There was a cheeky moment was when a Mexican gentleman asked GGG if (because of the size of the Mexican community in Chicago) he would be targeting a Mexican star signing.....GGG responded something to like of "There are lots of great Mexican players, and I have really enjoyed beating them on the International stage, but we will not be targeting a demographic....we will simply be targeting players that best fit our metric to play our style...nationality is not part of our metric"
     
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