Alert: Gregg Berhalter Sporting Director and Head Coach Career Deathwatch or should that be "Nut Rider?"

As squad players. They need to be upgraded to be a serious contender.

 

You guys can get Reyna for far less than that.

 

Malik Tillman too.

 

Yeah, but only Reyna and Gregg can work together as successfully as they have.

Also, its the fire. It'll probably turn into a turd within ~5-6 months from now.

 

say what you will about GGG but he had a system and a plan throughout

 

Meh, we've seen incompetence and stoopidity for the better part of a quarter century now with your club. I know, I used to be right there with you guys.


And it isn't just the fire, we've seen it for most of our lifetimes with both baseball teams in town, for all but 1 year with pointyball, and outside the Jordan years, for the most of our lifetimes with basketball as well.

Long story, short, the media will tell you to be a "diehard," because [snicker] "Chicago is a great sports town," when it kinda isn't. I hope it works out for you guys, but I fully expect it to fail.

As usual.

 

mansueto has made some bad moves, but you can't compare him to reinsdorf

 

Its just easier to assume that something bad and dumb will be done by someone stoopid, when it comes to Chicago sports. If you make that assumption, you will seldom be wrong.


Mansueto does not = Reinsdorf, but I think there's a lot of potential for him to reach those heights of greed, ignorance, and stoopidity. Give him some time to fully develop his "stoopid," so that he can continue to sucker the naive out of their time and money, to the same degree that Reinsdorf has.

After all, Mansueto's a fresh-faced 68 year old man, while Reinsdorf is 88. So give Joe 20 more years of sucktitude to "catch up" to the [snicker] Hall of Famer.

 

This news officially confirms my suspicion that this was ALWAYS intended to be a throwaway year.

Pete (hopes that works out for us)

 

That was ‘confirmed’ when our Captain(and highest paid player in club history) stopped playing on May18th

 

A new era in Chicago. #cf97 pic.twitter.com/RxIllhXtrB

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— Chicago Fire FC (@ChicagoFire) October 8, 2024

 

overlooking your consistently cynical take on everything around these parts, the key difference between Manseuto and Reinsdorf is that Mansueto owns a team because he is rich whereas Reinsdorf (and especially the McCaskeys) are rich because they own a team

Mansueto has already shown a willingness to spend well above league average, especially in areas where there are fewer caps -- DP spending, transfer fees, buying out the Seatgeek commitment -- whereas Reinsdorf has only touched the luxury tax once with the Bulls and consistently rates middle of the road on Sox roster spend despite being in the third largest media market in the country

Mansueto may well be an incompetent owner, but it isn't for lack of trying


(all of this, of course, notwithstanding the fact that billionaires should not exist, but holds true nonetheless)

 

Well the clincher for me is Klopas being promoted. He did his job just keeping the seat warm for 1.5 years until bad contracts expired so a real coach could be hired, and they are happy with him. If he was a serious head coach he would be fired, but he never was and this was always the plan.

Pete (thinks that’s good long term planning even if it’s a bit jerky to fans)

 

yeah, frank coming back after publicly saying he didn't want the full-time job was a rough start

 

While I appreciate your reply, there's a lot to unpack here, so I'll do my best.

"Cynical?"

Nah. More like "realistic."

Lets do some arithmetic, as it pertains to teams around these parts. Based on your posting style, lets assume you're 50 years old:

This would mean that you've lived through 100 cumulative MLB seasons, but only witnessed 2 championships. In the NFL, you've seen 1 out of 50. And it has been more than half of your time on earth since the fire have won the league.

Hell, you've seen more wooden spoons than MLS Cups.

So nah, not "cynical," just not naive.

Yeah, this is incredibly wrong. The googly masheen will tell you that he got wealthy in real estate, sold his first company, then formed ANOTHER real estate firm, which he then sold to Lehman Brothers (yeah THOSE Lehman Brothers). All of that, before he became one of the worst owners in North American professional sports.

While this is true, it doesn't much matter as much in the NFL, because those teams print money. Even the lake forest stumblebums, with the puniest stadium in the league, just cash flows tremendously, before game #1. This is something that just isn't true elsewhere in North American professional sports.

Hows it going so far?

I was told (in effect) that the plan was:

1. Move to NSF,
2. ???????
3. Profit!!!!

You guys are still in year 5 of step 2.

Yet, within 2 years of buying the white sox, Reinsdorf had that team in the final 4 of the playoffs, while winning the equivalent of the supporters shield. How's Mansueto doing so far?

Got anything to show for your time and money consumed on that team since Mansueto's taken over? Any silverware? (Just asking.)

And again, in Chicago, its just easier to assume that something bad and dumb will be done by someone stoopid within the organization.

Feel free to fall all over yourself to carry the water for Mansueto, if that's how you get your jollies. Just mind your back when you do.

 

Who told you that? I know, no one. But you do you.

 

Plenty over here swore up and down that TP was the reason for the fire sucking out loud af soccer, and that moving into the city would make the team better.

 

Alas, I was not one of them. I wish we stayed longer to build a movement but COVID ********ed all regardless.

 

Eh, most of those posters/fans have left these parts.

More cogently for you guys is that your I/O looks to be a a garden-variety Chicago sports owner stumblebum. Here's hoping (snicker) that Gregg Berhalter will be the magic potion to the fire's woes.

 

Reinadorf was rich by most any standards when he laid a combined $40 million or so in the 80s for the Bulls and White Sox, but his entire net worth is tied up in the ownership of those teams and the explosion of franchise value — he is consistently named among the cheapest owners in the MLB and NBA

Mansueto has spent a lot of money to try to make the Fire competitive

Mansueto may be an incompetent sports owner — the jury is still out — but it’s a misunderstanding of sports ownership to compare him to Reinsdorf or the McCaskeys


your anti-Chicago schtick reads like a guy who makes/made his money working in the city and going home each night to the suburbs

 

Thanks for agreeing with me.

But then, he's also done things Mansueto HASN'T done:

Hes won a few times as well.

BTW, how's it going for you guys?

5 years into his MLS adventure, lets ask again:

What, exactly, have the fire accomplished under his ownership? What silverware?

Yeah, those owners have actually won things; Reinsdorf won the equivalent of a supporters shield in his 2nd year of ownership.

(Snicker) "Anti-chicago?" Seriously?

Nah. I'm just not a naive water-carrier for a$$hole owners.

But, Id expect no less from someone so naive to be suckered by Brandon Johnson.

 

sounds like I nailed the suburbs part though