Alert: Gregg Berhalter Sporting Director and Head Coach Career Deathwatch or should that be "Nut Rider?"

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Oct 8, 2024.

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What happens in the next 24 months with GGG at the helm of our Chicago Fire?

  1. Fire win...the Wooden Spoon in either 2024 or 2025

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  2. Fire still suck in 2025, but make the playoffs in 2026...baby steps

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%
  3. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and 2026, appropriate steps

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
  4. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and make it to MLS Cup 2026

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Fire win it all in 2025!...Take that shit to the Optimism Thread

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  6. Fire win the Leagues Cup...the ONLY cup that matters

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  7. Fire are "allowed" into the US Open Cup and win! Kings of the Cup, baby!

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  8. Gregg uses his amazing contacts and the Fire become USMNT "light" (we have Acosta!)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  9. This is the Chicago Fire, so SOMETHING STUPID HAPPENS!

    15 vote(s)
    75.0%
  10. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    11 vote(s)
    55.0%
  11. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    9 vote(s)
    45.0%
  12. I don't know what will happen, but I am along for the ride. Fire 'til I Die!

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  13. Fire 'til I Die! (or until something better comes along)

    4 vote(s)
    20.0%
  14. We sign two DP for 2025.

    6 vote(s)
    30.0%
  15. We sign at least one great, big name DP for 2025

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  16. That big name is Christian Pulisic (is he a big name? I don't know)

    0 vote(s)
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  17. The wallowers are attacked...again (I hope this does not happen)

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  18. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  19. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  20. Gregg flames out and Klopas becomes interim head coach by October 2026

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
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  1. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Coaching staff: Wolff and GGG have a history.

    Just sayin'
     
  2. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great comment!
     
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  3. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I (shamefully) admit to watching the virtual town hall with GGG on YouTube.
    He indicated they were looking to add six new starters. Wow!
    Given that and his other comments plus MLS Salary Budget Charge rules, it sure sounds like an adios to Gimenez, Souquet and Mueller and a sale of Teran.
     
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  4. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Gimenez and Souquet are very likey gone, but there’s a long shot chance Gimenez is bought down and stays.

    Mueller and MHS were referenced as ‘good depth’.

    Teran has been referenced as a special athlete that could become a top5 CB in the league…not expecting him to depart.

    Prior starters not starting next year are: Gimenez, Mueller, MHS, Czichos, and Arigoni/Soquet…which is 6 people 5 positions. Might be able to include Fede…he didn’t start a lot and probably will not start a lot next year either.
     
  5. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree we do not know what the plan is. But his statement “6 new starters” would seem to mean 5 of last year’s starters remain. That would be Brady, Gutman, Cuypers, Acosta and Guti (IMO) based upon GGG comments.
    Six new starters will require considerable resources. I think they will need to
    generate cap space and probably increase GAM to accomplish this.
    Gimenez, Souquet and Mueller are three major consumers of resources and they
    are not going to be starters. No reason to think any of them are willing to a major salary reduction.
    A Teran sale could be a way to generate a lot of GAM.
    Just my best guess
     
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  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Agree with all of this.

    "Brady, Gutman, Cuypers, Acosta and Guti" as retained starters.
    Yes, if Teran can be sold for a tidy profit.

    Or MHS as the fifth, of it is believed Gutman is not going to be reliably healthy.

    "Gimenez, Souquet and Mueller." No reason to keep any of them even at reduced salaries. Mueller would be the only one worth keeping and he has been a shadow of his mediocre former self since his injury.
     
  7. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    I believe the 5 retained starters are Cuypers, Guti, Acosta, Teran and Brady.

    I'm not confident Gutman retains his starting position...he was 3/4 speed after the injury...hope he can get back to 100%.

    Teran has been mentioned by GGG at least 3 times as 'special', so it would likely need to be a big number to see him sold.

    It wasn't directly mentioned, but it was fully implied that Mueller is unprotected and there is interest in him.

    ZERO mentions on Gimenez and Souquet...closest thing to a mention is "we have 2 DP tags to work with"...but we do know they have been working on a new placement for both for multiple years.​
     
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  8. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Each piece of this is positive.
    I agree with your five, as I stated. Teran will be sold IF the price is high enough. Either keeping him or selling him for a huge profit would be a sound decision.
    Agreed on Gutman, as I stated.
    It would be nice if Mueller finds a place where he could prosper. It would suck if we brought him, rehabbed him for a year and a half only for him to go somewhere and excel, but good for him if it happens (doubt it will, though).
    Great news on Gimenez and Souquet.
     
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  9. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gutman or Teran as starter no.5 was most difficult choice for me.
    A healthy Teran paired with Czichos looked really good a couple years ago. When Teran was paired with other CBs more recently, he has not looked as good. Does not seem to be ready to be a team leader/captain yet. And we need somebody in back row who can do that.
    His salary is no longer low and there are rumblings he wants to go Europe as soon as possible. If they cannot sell him at a high price now, then keep him and do it shortly, hopefully at mid-season.
    Not like Fire have a lot of players they could sell at a profit and, trust me, they will need the GAM.
    Gutman should have more time to show what he can do.
     
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  10. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    #235 overlap_old_coach, Nov 23, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2024
    Guess this goes here…
    Chicago Fire FC has announced that Sebastian Pelzer has been named the Chief Sports Officer of partner club FC Lugano.

    his responsibilities will be taken over by Broughton and Stephens,

     
  11. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Stupid question, but has Joe decided to separate Lugano and Fire in terms of the FO? I'm guessing that the only way GGG looks at Lugano going forward is in order to dump contracts or possibly to get some young South Americans to Europe for exposure after a brief stint at the Fire.
     
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  12. More like 3G wants to get his hand picked people in these positions here. Lugano was always a bit of a step sister to the Fire except they have done more with less since Mansueto bought them.

    In 3G's last season at Columbus he brought in LB Milton Valenzuela, currently at Lugano. Valenzuela won an MLS Cup after 3G left and his contract runs out in June. He would want a TAM deal and is an upgrade.

    https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/s...s-crew-couldnt-agree-new-contract/9283313002/
     
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  13. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok. So Heitz and Pelzer are both still employed by Joe, just at Lugano. LOL
     
  14. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    This echoes my comments on how Joe approves of their work.
     
  15. I don't believe either of them have much to do with Lugano's success, now or in the future. It's more a matter of the resources thrown their way by Joe that proved decisive in a league where resources can make a difference. Lugano seems to have some good people that are using those resources well.. I think Joe likes and trusts Heitz (& maybe Peltzer) but needed to move them for the Fire's own good.
     
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  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Why is that funny?

    If Mansueto wants them to stay under his employ, that is his choice.
     
  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #242 xtomx, Nov 24, 2024
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2024
    ...and Berhalter wants "his people" around him.

    Edit: I see you posted that in your previous post (post 237).
     
  18. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree he can hire whoever he wants.
    Kinda like a MLB owner telling the coaching staff “we really like your losing record and, as a reward, we will let you coach our AA team”.
    Also funny- Joe kept me (and others) tied in knots trying to figure out what the deal was regarding Pelzer.
    Might just be my weird sense of humor.
     
  19. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GGG is Director of Football for Fire. Pelzer is Chief Sports Officer at Lugano.
    Anybody know how the duties differ, or are they the same?
    All these titles are confusing, at least for me.
     
  20. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    If I figure it out I’ll let you know.
     
  21. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    As posted elsewhere, Berhalter's staff is coming into shape.

    https://www.chicagofirefc.com/news/chicago-fire-fc-announces-key-technical-staff-additions

    This looks like a well considered and well planned collection of people-from MLS, from the USMNT and youth teams, from Europe.

    Not sure why we need a goalkeeping coach and an assistant goalkeeping coach, but Bendick (what an unfortunate name, fortunately there is now a drug to cure it) has a lot of MLS experience.

    Regardless, it shows that Berhalter is pretty serious about his ambitions as Fire head honcho. I am impressed and almost pleased with his activities in his first couple of months in charge.
     
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  22. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Agreed! It also generally indicates that PapaJoe and GGG 'got on the same page' with how GGG could be dual role (SD & HC)....a larger staff!
     
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  23. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is always difficult to me to evaluate staff personnel. Seems even tougher than players because there are “systems” in place regarding the players.
    I agree that it looks like a very good group GGG and Joe are assembling. I get the feeling substantial dollars are being spent.
    Looking forward to the major player announcements we are all waiting for.
     
  24. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I hear it every day.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  25. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    [​IMG]
     
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