Alert: Gregg Berhalter Sporting Director and Head Coach Career Deathwatch or should that be "Nut Rider?"

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by xtomx, Oct 8, 2024.

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What happens in the next 24 months with GGG at the helm of our Chicago Fire?

  1. Fire win...the Wooden Spoon in either 2024 or 2025

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  2. Fire still suck in 2025, but make the playoffs in 2026...baby steps

    6 vote(s)
    31.6%
  3. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and 2026, appropriate steps

    7 vote(s)
    36.8%
  4. Fire make the playoffs in 2025 and make it to MLS Cup 2026

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  5. Fire win it all in 2025!...Take that shit to the Optimism Thread

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  6. Fire win the Leagues Cup...the ONLY cup that matters

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Fire are "allowed" into the US Open Cup and win! Kings of the Cup, baby!

    6 vote(s)
    31.6%
  8. Gregg uses his amazing contacts and the Fire become USMNT "light" (we have Acosta!)

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  9. This is the Chicago Fire, so SOMETHING STUPID HAPPENS!

    15 vote(s)
    78.9%
  10. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    11 vote(s)
    57.9%
  11. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    9 vote(s)
    47.4%
  12. I don't know what will happen, but I am along for the ride. Fire 'til I Die!

    8 vote(s)
    42.1%
  13. Fire 'til I Die! (or until something better comes along)

    4 vote(s)
    21.1%
  14. We sign two DP for 2025.

    5 vote(s)
    26.3%
  15. We sign at least one great, big name DP for 2025

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  16. That big name is Christian Pulisic (is he a big name? I don't know)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. The wallowers are attacked...again (I hope this does not happen)

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  18. Malört (now and forever, for better or worse, in sickness and in health)

    10 vote(s)
    52.6%
  19. Rubber Dick (that does NOT already look like GGG)

    7 vote(s)
    36.8%
  20. Gregg flames out and Klopas becomes interim head coach by October 2026

    5 vote(s)
    26.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #1 xtomx, Oct 8, 2024
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  2. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Over/under of him keeping both jobs is 2 years and I’ll take the under.

    Oh wait, seeing how long we gave Heitz / Klopas maybe I better go with the over.
     
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  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Dammit! Some people have voted before I could finalize the Poll!
    Y'all too quick for me.

    Oh, well, we have two spots to VOTE FOR Malört. Hell, we'll probably need it.
    (and rubber dick, which I hope we don't need, but to each their own).
     
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  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    All aboard!

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If this team only had a soul!

    "Heart and soul" are not the first things I think of when I think of Gregg Berhalter.
    (have to add Berhalter to my spell check)

    I desperately want to be wrong!
     
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  6. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    kinda crazy how loose the team is with job titles

    N-Rod was General Manager, then GM and President, then just President when Hetiz was signed

    Hetiz was Sporting Director and Pelzer Technical Director, with a rotating cast of Presidents

    GGG is now Director of Football and Frank is VP of football, unclear if Pelzer will stick around
     
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  7. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    a few tweets:




    gonna take a little wizardry to create significant turnover on the roster given the contract status of many guys -- I hope it happens, but need some sucker teams to take on some of our hard-to-move contracts




    I like Wes and his role for the USMNT but he is not the type of guy I think you build around in MLS

    we need to find our Cucho who can make plays for others and score -- Wes is very good, but I don't think he fits that role and is better suited as a supporting player in big time leagues -- fwiw, Cucho has a Transfermarkt value is $15M and Wes' is $28M, but for MLS I think the Cucho-type player is much more valueable


    that said, GGG seems to play a very rigid system with an emphasis on player role and responsibility instead of individual creativity (a slight bummer as a fan, but if it leads to wins then no sweat)
     
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  8. Redmaynard

    Redmaynard Member

    May 20, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Always Malort and Rubber Dick. Now, and forever.
     
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  9. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like many soccer head coaches, GGG has his fans and his critics. I happen to think he has a number of characteristics that will be helpful in his new position. How successful will he be? Only time will tell. Keep in mind that, despite his dual position, there will still be a number of factors he will not control. And of, there is always luck.
    Is he best in world- clearly no. Is he the best theFire could get at this time-possibly.
    Whatever his abilities, whatever your past opinion of him, today he deserves the full support of every Fire fan.
     
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  10. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #10 xtomx, Oct 8, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2024
    All of this, especially the last part.

    I am less negative about him as head coach than Klopas or Ezra or Paunovic (never could get a handle on Wicky).

    More positive about Berhalter as SD/GM/Whatever than Heitz or Rodriguez or Bliss or Klopas (when he had the role).
     
  11. hollowfish

    hollowfish Member

    Aug 29, 2007
    Indiana
    Bring Malort Rubber Dicks and Diddy Parties at the Berhalter house
     
  12. thetomg

    thetomg Member

    Jul 17, 2013
    Chicago, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

    It's a loooow bar Gregg - use some of those limited edition Jordan's to clear it!
     
  13. thetomg

    thetomg Member

    Jul 17, 2013
    Chicago, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    OHH WAIT - maybe he'll have to be an Adidas guy now?

    THE HORROR!
     
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  14. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    WIZARDRY! Maybe he can get GrandGarber to add some juju to the effort....going to need it!

    I half-disagree...we desperately need a CM like Wes...AND we need a DP forward.
     
  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  16. GGG will get La Maquina Roja rolling, then turn it over to Josh Wolff after he wins MLS Cup 2026.
     
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  17. Malik Tillman is cheaper and better and just might light a fire (no pun intended) under Guti. Sell them both for $50 million total after the Fire win MLS Cup 2026 and the US gets 3rd in WC2026.
     
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  18. juicecrewallstar

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Mar 1, 2019
    i think it can be challenging to know how different skillsets will fare in MLS compared to a top flight league -- it's why a guy with supreme skills like Shaq can't succeed

    the one template that seems to work over and over is the attacking midfielder with speed, vision, and creativity like Cucho, Carles Gil, Riqui Puig, Carlos Vela, Hany Mukhtar, Luciano Acosta, Dániel Gazdag, Thiago Almada, and so on

    we desperately need a guy like that
     
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  19. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    We need speed.
     
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  20. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wait, according to Tyrus GGG has a plan.
    What is this "plan" of which he speaks. I have heard of such a thing, but have not actually seen one on my journeys to Fire matches.
     
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  21. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Unfortunately that's not Acosta...
    Be interesting to see if Lassiter's speed earns him an offer...
     
  22. Lassiter & MHS are nice squad players.
     
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  23. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    Would make sense that this has "been in the works" and not starting from zip...
     
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  24. pena pirata

    pena pirata Member+

    Sep 28, 2013
    Batavia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I hope it is a three year championship plan that is reevaluated on a yearly basis..................................................actually I don't really care that much anymore seeing as this year is the first time since 1997 that I did not watch any Chicago Fire soccer games live or on tv.
     
  25. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022
    If either of them played good D they'd be great squad players!

    But if GGG sticks with his 4-3-3 they could be played as forwards...
     

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