Greatest players/coaches in each region/country

Discussion in 'Soccer History' started by Excape Goat, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I am bored while waiting for the draft. I just came up this list.

    1) Greatest player ever
    2) Greatest goalscocrer
    3) Greatest provider(someone who provides the assists; playmaker, winger, etc)
    4) Greatest Defensive player(DMF or defender)
    5) Greatest goalkeeper
    6) Greatest coach(someone from that region or country, not who coached them).
     
  2. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Argentina: 1) Maradona, 2) Batistuta 3) Maradona 4) Passarella 5) Fillo, 6)Helenio Herrera
    Bolivia: Etcheverry
    Brazil 1) Pele 2) Ronaldo 3) Pele 4)Dunga 5)Gilmar 6) Mario Zagallo
    Chile 1) Elias Figueroa 2) Ivan Zamorano 3) ? 4) Elias Figueroa 5) ? 6) ?Ecuador 1) Spencer
    Colombia 1) Valderama 2) Asprilla 3) Valderama 4) Ivan Cordoba 5)Higuita 6) Francisco Maturana
    Peru 1) Cubillas, 2) ? 3) Cubillas 4) Chumpitaz
    Uruguay 1) Enzo Francescoli 2) Juan Alberto Schiaffino 3) Enzo Francescoli 4) Jose Nasazzi 5) Ladislao Mazurkiewicz
    Venezuela Juan Arango
    ParaguayJose Luis Chilavert

    I like to do a regional list. Can someone come up with a list for Sao paulo, Rio de Janeiro. etc.
     
  3. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Austria 1) Matthias Sindelar 2) Bican 3) Matthias Sindelar 4) ? 5) ? 6) Ernst Happel
    Belgium 1) Van Himst 2) Van Himst 3) Scifo 4) Gerets 5) Pfaff
    Bosinia & H: Susic
    Bulgaria: 1) & 2) Hristo Stoichkov 3) Balakov
    Croatia 1) Robert Prosinecki 2) Suker 4) Jarni
    Czech Rep 1) & 3) Nedved 5) Cech
    Denmark 1) M. Laudrup 2) Laudrup 3) Laudrup 4) M.Olsen 5) Schmeichel 6) Finn Laudrup
    England 1) Sir Matthew 2) Lineker 3) Sir Matthew 4) Moore 5) Banks 6) Brian Clough
    Finland 1) Litmanen 2) ? 3) Litmanen 4) Hyypia
    France 1) Platini 2) Platini 3) Platini 4) Thuram 5) Barthez 6) wenger
    Germany 1) Beckenbauer 2) Mueller 3) ? 4) Beckenbauer 5) Maier 6) ?
    Hungary 1) Puskas 2) Puskas 3) ? 4) ? 5) Grosics 6) Bela Guttmann
    Iceland Arnor Guojohnsen
    Italy 1) Maldini 2) Riva 3) Rivera 4) Maldini 5) Buffon 6) Trapattoni
    Macedonia Pancev
    Montenegro 1) Dejan Savicevic 2) Predrag Mijatovic 3) Savicevic
    Netherlands 1) Cruyff 2) Cruyff/Van basten 3) Cruyff? 4) Krol 5) Van der sar 6) Michels
    N.Ireland 1) Best 2) Best 3) Best 4) Danny Blanchflower 5) Jennings
     
  4. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Poland 1) Deyna 2) Lubanski 3) Deyna 4) Zmuda 5) Tomaszewski 6) Kazimierz Gorski
    Portugal 1) Eusebio 2) Eusebio 3) Figo 4) Humberto Coelho 5) ? 6) Jose Mourinho
    Republic of Ireland 1) Roy Keane 2) Frank Stapleton 3) Liam Brady 4) Keane 5) ? 6) martin O'Neil.
    Romania Hagi
    Russia 1) Yashin 2) ? 3) ? 4) Albert Shesternyov 5) Yashin (see Ukraine & USSR later)
    Scotland 1) Law 2) Law 3) Jimmy Johnstone 4) Hansen 5) Leighton 6) SAF
    Serbia 1) Dzajic 2) ? 3) Dzajic 4) Vasoic 5) ? 6) Bora Milutinovic
    Sweden 1) Nils Liedholm 2) Nils Liedholm 3) Kurt Harim 4) ? 5) Thomas Ravelli 6) Sven-Goran Eriksson
    Turkey 1) Sukur 6) Terim
    Ukraine 1) Shevchenko 2) Shevchenko 3) Blokin 4) ? 5) ? 6) Valeriy Lobanovskyi
    Wales 1) John Charles 2) Rush/Charles 3) Giggs 4) Charles 5) Southall

    USSR 1) Yashin 2) Blokin 3) ? 4) Albert Shesternyov 5) Yashin 6) Lobanovskyi
    East Germany Sammer
    Yugoslavia 1) Savicevic 2) Dzajic 3) Savicevic 4) Vasoic 5) ? 6) Bora
    Czechoslovakia 1) Josef Masopust 5) Planicka
    Basque 1) Telmo Zarra 2) Telmo Zarra 3) ? 4) Lizarazu 5) Zubizarreta
    Catalonia 1) Zamora 2) ? 3) Xavi 4) ? 5) Zamora
     
  5. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    USA 1) Donovan 2) Donovan 3) Tab Ramos 4) ? 5) Friedel 6) Arena
    Mexico 1) Hugo Sanchez 2) Hugo Sanchez 3) ? 4) ? 5) Antonio Carbajal
    Canada 5) Forrest
    Pananma: Julio Cesar Dely Valdes
    T&T Yorke

    Australia 1) ? 2) Viduka
    (who played for other NTs 1) Vieri 2) Vieri 3) Johnston 4) Dorigo))
    Japan 1) Shunsuke Nakamura 2) Kunishige Kamamoto 3) Shunsuke Nakamura 4) Yashuhiko Okudera
    Korea 1) Cha Bum Kun 2) Cha Bum Kun 3) Park Ji-Sung 4) Hong-Mueng-Bo 5) Lee Woon-Jae
    China 1) Hao Haidong 2) Hao Haidong 3)Rong Zhihang 4) Fan Zhiyi
    Singapore 1) Fandi Ahmad
    HK/Republic of China(Taiwan) 1) Lee Wei Tong 6) Kwok Kaming
    The Philippines Paulino Alcantara
    Iran Ali Daei
    Saudi Arabia Abdullah Majed
    Israel Avi Cohen
    New Zealand Wynton Rufer
    Zambia Kalusha Bwalya
    Algeria 1) Rabah Madjer 2) Lakhdar Belloumi
    Cameroon 1) Roger Milla 2) Milla 6) N'Kono
    Cote d'Ivoire Drogba
    Ghana 1) A. Pele 2) Tony Yeboah 3) A. Pele 4)Essien
    Egypt Hossam Hassan
    Liberia Weah
    Nigeria 1) Jay-Jay Okocha 4) Stefan Keshi
    Zimbabwe Bruce Grobbelaar
    South Africa Jomo Sono 4) Lucas Radebe
     
  6. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    1- Cubillas
    2- Cubillas/Lolo Fernandez
    3- Cueto
    4- Chumpitaz
    5- Mago Valdivieso
    6- Marcos Calderon
     
  7. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Actually, Schiaffino was known because he wasn't a goalscorer mate, was more a creative player.

    Argentina

    Greatest Player Ever: Diego Maradona
    Greatest Goalscorer: Gabriel Batistuta
    Greatest Provider: Diego Maradona
    Greatest Defensive Player: Daniel Passarella
    Greatest Goalkeeper: Amadeo Carrizo

    Bolivia

    Greatest Player Ever: Marco Antonio Etcheverry
    Greatest Goalscorer: Joaquín Botero
    Greatest Provider: Erwin Sánchez
    Greatest Defensive Player: Marco Antonio Sandy
    Greatest Goalkeeper: Carlos Trucco

    Brasil

    Greatest Player Ever: Pelé
    Greatest Goalscorer: Pelé
    Greatest Provider: Pelé
    Greatest Defensive Player: Carlos Alberto
    Greatest Goalkeeper: Gilmar

    Chile

    Greatest Player Ever: Elías Figueroa
    Greatest Goalscorer: Iván Zamorano
    Greatest Provider: Leonel Sánchez
    Greatest Defensive Player: Elías Figueroa
    Greatest Goalkeeper: Sergio Livingstone

    Colombia

    Greatest Player Ever: Willington Ortiz
    Greatest Goalscorer: Arnoldo Iguarán
    Greatest Provider: Carlos Valderrama
    Greatest Defensive Player: Iván Córdoba
    Greatest Goalkeeper: Óscar Córdoba

    Ecuador

    Greatest Player Ever: Alberto Spencer
    Greatest Goalscorer: Alberto Spencer
    Greatest Provider: Álex Aguinaga
    Greatest Defensive Player: Iván Hurtado
    Greatest Goalkeeper: José Francisco Cevallos

    Paraguay

    Greatest Player Ever: Arsenio Erico
    Greatest Goalscorer: Arsenio Erico
    Greatest Provider: Julio César Romero
    Greatest Defensive Player: Carlos Gamarra
    Greatest Goalkeeper: José Luis Chilavert

    Peru

    Greatest Player Ever: Teófilo Cubillas
    Greatest Goalscorer: Teodoro Fernández
    Greatest Provider: César Cueto
    Greatest Defensive Player: Héctor Chumpitaz
    Greatest Goalkeeper: Juan Valdivieso

    Uruguay

    Greatest Player Ever: Juan Alberto Schiaffino
    Greatest Goalscorer: Héctor Scarone
    Greatest Provider: Juan Alberto Schiaffino
    Greatest Defensive Player: José Nasazzi
    Greatest Goalkeeper: Ladislao Mazurkiewicz
     
  8. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Dunga? he could be among the best defensive midfielder for Brazil) but if including defenders, I am afraid he would be behind at least 5 names: D.Santos, N.santos, De Guia, C.Alberto, and arguably Cafu ...


    Peru FC has made very good list
     
  9. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    I'd add also Zito.
     
  10. DaveyGorgeous

    DaveyGorgeous Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I noticed you chose Trapattoni as the greatest ever Italian coach, what about Marcello Lippi, Fabio Capello or Vittorio Pozzo?
     
  11. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid

    I chose him because of his records. Didn't he have the best Serie A record? This was just a rough draft. i am opened for update.
     
  12. aguimarães

    aguimarães Member

    Apr 19, 2006
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    CONCACAF




    Costa Rica

    1) Greatest player ever
    Alejandro Morera Soto
    2) Greatest goalscorer
    Paolo Cesar Wanchope
    3) Greatest provider
    Jafet Soto
    4) Greatest Defensive player
    Mauricio Montero
    5) Greatest goalkeeper
    Gabriel Conejo
    6) Greatest coach
    Hernan Medford

    Mexico

    1) Greatest player ever
    Hugo Sanchez
    2) Greatest goalscorer
    Jared Borgetti
    3) Greatest provider
    Alberto García Aspe
    4) Greatest Defensive player
    Rafael Marquez
    5) Greatest goalkeeper
    Jorge Campos
    6) Greatest coach
    Javier Aguirre

    USA

    1) Greatest player ever
    Landon Donovan
    2) Greatest goalscorer
    Brian McBride
    3) Greatest provider
    Claudio Reyna
    4) Greatest Defensive player
    Marcelo Balboa
    5) Greatest goalkeeper
    Kasey Keller
    6) Greatest coach
    Bruce Arena
     
  13. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Are you referring to Luis Gabelo Conejo or is he a different goalkeeper :confused:?

    I'd replace him by Antonio Carbajal.

    I'd replace them by Billy Gonsalves, Walter Bahr and Brad Friedel respectively.
     
  14. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    The Netherlands

    1) Greatest player ever
    Johan Cruyff

    2) Greatest goalscocrer
    Marco Van Basten

    3) Greatest provider(someone who provides the assists; playmaker, winger, etc)
    Dennis Bergkamp

    4) Greatest Defensive player(DMF or defender)
    Frank Rijkaard

    5) Greatest goalkeeper
    Frans de Munck

    6) Greatest coach
    Rinus Michels
     
  15. braine

    braine Member

    Feb 5, 2006
    Belgium
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Greatest player : Paul Van Himst

    Greatest goalscorer : Jef Mermans

    Greatest provider : Frank Vercauterten

    Greatest DF player : Eric Gerets

    Greatest GKeeper : J-M Pfaff

    Greatest coach : Guy Thijs
     
  16. aguimarães

    aguimarães Member

    Apr 19, 2006
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Yes, sorry about that.

    :confused:

    He conceded more goals than any other keeper in history, some which any decent keeper would have saved.

    min 0:10
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qbr9h9XTlo"]France vs Mexico 1954 (19-06-1954)[/ame]

    He didn´t even come off his line as the attacker approached him.



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR7-vN1f7gY"]jorge campos video[/ame]

    Campos on the other hand was spectacular despite being very short. He was solid for Mexico throughout the 1990s, both in the 2 World Cups, their Gold Cup wins and only Confederations Cup win.

    Gonsalves and Bahr didn´t have the major careers in Europe Friedel and Keller had.
     
  17. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Actually, I think Carbajal is usually overrated because his five participations in World Cups, but in spite of that, he was a solid goalkeeper during his 16 years in León. The biggest part of his high negative record was because Mexico was awful defending in his time.

    Campos was a good goalkeeper, very good leaping ability and speed, but only spectacular because his acrobatic style and his colorful attire. Actually, I'd ranked slightly better to Óscar Pérez.

    First, I don't think is necessary that a player impact in Europe to have a better individual category in every case. Then, Donovan and Balboa (the players you're mentioning) didn't have their major careers in Europe neither.

    Donovan played almost all his career in United States (in San José Earthquakes and Los Ángeles Galaxy) and never had a real impact in Europe (barely played 7 games to Bayer Leverkusen, 6 to Bayern Münich and slightly more than 10 games to Everton scoring only 2 goals at overall). Balboa never played in Europe.
     
  18. aguimarães

    aguimarães Member

    Apr 19, 2006
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Not many American players besides Keller, Friedel, and McBride have had good careers in Europe, which is one of the reasons for their high rankings. I ranked Donovan and Balboa for their overall play with the USMNT. Babloa was solid in 1994, and helped anchor one of the toughest defenses of that Cup. Donovan helped the US reach one of their best finishes in the WC. Most importantly, he´s the all-time leader in goals and assists for the national team.
     
  19. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    How about Thomas Dooley? Although he is German, he was very solid.
     
  20. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You'd replace Marcelo Balboa with Walter Bahr as the United States' greatest defensive player? I think Bahr was certainly a greater player than Balboa, but he was an attacking midfielder.
     
  21. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Walter Bahr never was an attacking midfielder mate, he was a sweeper or defensive midfielder, ever regarded as a defensive stalwart.
     
  22. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Austria
    As the wording is greatest, not best:

    1) Greatest player ever
    Matthias Sindelar
    2) Greatest goalscocrer
    Krankl seriously - not Binder or Bican
    3) Greatest provider
    uhmm
    4) Greatest Defensive player
    Herbert Prohaska
    5) Greatest goalkeeper
    Rudi Hiden
    6) Greatest coach
    Ernst Happel
     
  23. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not what he says.
     
  24. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Prohaska a defensive player? He'd be more fitting for 3).
     
  25. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    But it was his position definitely.

    That's true, he was more a deep-lying playmaker, good defending but better passing. I'd vote for Ernst Ocwirk or Ernst Happel to the position of defensive player for Austria.
     

Share This Page