Greatest European footballers In football history

Tbf this is the best season of Messi at LaLiga (19/20):
Passes 15
Free kicks 3
Headers 1
Crosses 1
Corner 1

Suarez 7
Griezmann 3
Ansu Fati 3
Vidal 2
Rakitic 1
Braithwaite 1
Alba 1
De Jong 1
Busquets 1
Lenglet 1

So it drops from 21 to 10 without Suarez and set pieces

 

So you can see clearly big players' productivity increases with better teammates, i.e better team.

 

Maradona said day to day that he was better than Pele.accept it or buzz off.

 

That's not how it works. You can't just add these totals when subtracting without first accounting for the number of set-piece assists Sanchez and Suarez benefitted from.

 

Valdano, burru, schuster all were top players.but unfortunately for you I'm talking about teams with a number of top players such as juventus 82-84 consisting off Paolo rossi, tardelli, boniek, tacconi/ZOff, scerea, cabrini, gentile etc. along with platini.also messi's barca,cr7 with real and so.

 

Firstly in 1985-87 ,there were no careca, no alemao, no zola absolutely.he played in 89/90 and the next season in napoli but seldom with maradona.most of the time as his sub.Bagni, Giordano, bertoni were not in the late 80's.
Now 1986 team.if i put pele's teammates in 1958 besides valdano,burruchaga, ruggeri, Batista, Enrique, it would be a shame.Who were playing with Pele?
The brilliant Vava, didi, garrincha, zagallo (a bit lesser player), jose altafini, the Santos bros, Zito I think.
In 70, Brazil team was graced with tostao,jairzinho, rivellino, gerson, Alberto Torres, clodoaldo, Brito and others with Pele ofcourse.

 

As I already told you, you assume that Maradona's Napoli mates where average players, which it was not the case at all. Maradona achieved significantly with Napoli, but not overachieved to the extent you claim, considering the environment he operated in. Serie A was pretty much balanced back then. Roma got their second title after 40 years, Verona and Sampdoria got their first and last as of today. None of these teams enjoyed more financial resources than Napoli. The likes of Bruscolotti, Bagni, Bertoni, Ferrara, De Napoli, Giordano, Carnevale, Giuliani, Crippa, Francini, Alemao were all instrumental players worthy of a title-targeting team in late 80s serie A, no doubt. Let alone Careca and Zola, two world class players. And as to european cups, I would even say that Maradona underachieved there. Napoli had all what it was needed to be a contender for European Cup, to do well and progress to quarter or semi at least. And the Uefa Cup win of 89 has been more down to Careca than Maradona.

 

Maradona had 6 assists and 1 penalty goal in semi and finals of that uefa cup.in all 3 pk goals and 9 assists in the tournament.Careca scored 6 non pk ones along with 2 assists i guess.anyway as i repeat it was like didi being the best player in 58.
I would mention that not all those players you mentioned were playing for napoli in the late 80s.specifically bertoni, bagni,Giordano.Zola was brought in from serie b in 89-90 and played mostly as a sub,was not there in the uefa cup win.btw they were all good players,i won't ever say average.still diego was the biggest influence without any shade of doubt.

 

Better than Hierro in 2002?

 

Waddle

I saw him for the first time in my entire life

in that game
between

Holland 3 vs 1 England Euro-Cup

Euro-Cup 1988
at final phase
already

he came on
already at the end of the second half from the bench ...there Carlito 86 !

with his hair
styled like the brilliant Genius Pierre Littbarski vs England ... and World Cup 1990 ..


well,














Carlito 86 !

Do you have the data-base on completed dribbles completed per 90 minutes played from all UEFA Champions League seasons?

Since the 2005/2006 edition?

From Ronaldinho Gaucho's completed dribbles?

from Ronaldinho ..was 36 dribbles and 41 ...dribbles completed... ..0, 63 % ..and 0, 53 %

I mean...

How many completed dribbles completed did Barcelona FC have in the 2005/2006 season?

Vs. the current new teams 2025/2026 season Uefa Champions League ?

Do you have or know of any average of completed dribbles for all teams?

To check if these complaints from Ruud Gullit and Rio Ferdinand are really true?

From my point of view

It's just a nostalgic perspective.



Lamine Yamal ...

He completes more dribbles than Ronaldinho on the real true Metrics ?????

 

Hey Carlito 86

You disappeared from here ...hahahaha !

 

I used to think Campbell was just slightly above average and nothing more. But maybe there’s some statistical data that contradicts my memory. On Sofascore, his ratings aren't impressive. Campbell has two ESM Team of the Month selections. It’s a good number, but nothing special either

 

Sofascore has that data on the player's profile. In his best season in UCL(2004/05), Ronaldinho completed 5.9 dribbles per game. That’s an insane number. Yamal hasn't reached those figures yet in his three UCL seasons. He's at 4.3 in the current UCL edition his best numbers. But he’ll likely surpass. Yamal is a a stunning talent.

When checking player profiles on Sofascore, we have to be careful with the ratings. This is because the 'Big Chances' metric was only introduced by Opta in the 2010/2011 season. For older seasons, such as the 2004/05 UCL, Big Chances Created' stats didn't exist. Big Chances metric gives a bonus to the final rating. So, players from 2010 onwards have this bonus in their Sofascore rating

Players like Ronaldinho would benefit the most from a historical review using modern metrics, as he was known for his 'magical passes' (big chances?) that didn't provide a rating boost at the time.

 

What do you mean? Ronaldinho was ballon d'or (Neymar zero), was the UEFA Club Footballer of the Year in 2005/06, which Neymar never was (Neymar did not win the UEFA Men's Player of the Year Award), and in the European Sports Media (ESM) Team of the Year, Ronaldinho had 22 selections while Neymar had 12, almost twice as many.(https://erubik.xyz/esm/players.php)

Ronaldinho is far more decorated than Neymar. Is he supposed to take inspiration from someone who won less? Jokes aside, Yamal could surpass both of them. Amazing talent

 

4.5 dribbles completed...per 90 minutes played

Still a super younger player like Lamine Yamal

Another one

He did it already

With

25 years old
and
26 years old

6.00 dribbles completed as Ronaldinho in that age ...



Gullit meant more within a general perspective

of dribbles completed
or attempts
by teams already

but the speech sounds nostalgic really .. by the way "!

 

yes Lamine Yamal ... will surpass ...easily... Ronaldinho gaucho ...


He finalizes finishing skills ..much better already .....than Ronaldinho ..Gaucho ...in any time-life


Ronaldinho.. Shots on Target ......ratio % at averages was

Most plays were through penalties taking and free kicks.taking Opportunities