Greatest European footballers In football history

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by carlito86, Oct 24, 2018.

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Who are your favourite European legends

Poll closed Jul 20, 2021.
  1. Zinedine Zidane

    11 vote(s)
    21.2%
  2. Marco Van Basten

    5 vote(s)
    9.6%
  3. Roberto Baggio

    8 vote(s)
    15.4%
  4. Johan Cruyff

    27 vote(s)
    51.9%
  5. Cristiano Ronaldo

    11 vote(s)
    21.2%
  6. Micheal laudrup

    5 vote(s)
    9.6%
  7. Michel Platini

    10 vote(s)
    19.2%
  8. der Kaiser

    6 vote(s)
    11.5%
  9. Gerd Muller

    6 vote(s)
    11.5%
  10. George best

    4 vote(s)
    7.7%
  11. Dejan savicevic

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Xavi Hernandez

    7 vote(s)
    13.5%
  13. Thierry Henry

    5 vote(s)
    9.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    by votes from totally alienated, mentally ill and crazy fans...

    it's harder for C. Ronaldo to win really . !
     
  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Maradona is ranking like this .

    by crazy Fans on the Internet...

    generally they are people
    who follow football for pure entertainment

    lovers of frills, dribbling skills, juggling skills, prime and highlights at You Tube

    as if it were an addiction like drugs


    But by experts

    for sure not not not not not not not not.... "!


    honestly, consistency for consistency Ruud Gullit was much more complete and was a better player overall than Diego Maradona .


    Diego was a player with flashes of genius


    but very irregular and inconsistent during the whole matches ..
    I saw ..more than 300 full matches of Diego Armando Maradona
    on the Internet


    except for the 1986 World Cup

    Diego Armando Maradona's physical condition was almost always very poor and precarious .
     
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  3. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Absolute GOAT tier technique



    In the last 15 years I have not seen even one player improvise like that on a FK
     
  4. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy

    Do you think he was decently fit only during WC86? Based on footages I have seen, I would say he could maintain a very good physical condition until at least first or second year at Napoli. At Barca in particular he was very nimble and fast accelerating, and very hard to send to the ground.
     
  5. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy
    But that's the original (and finest).

     
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  6. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    That was not a direct/indirect freekick


    Eder was not a European player


    And a European player(John Sheridan )did in fact score an identical FK goal to Matt li tissier almost 10 years prior(so in the 1980s)


    And in 1970 Ernie Hunt scored this


    Your Eder was 13 years old at the time this goal was scored


    Obviously and I’d say quite unfortunately you are part of the brigade here that pushes the myth that South American players invented everything great in football

    That is neither the case or even remotely close to being the case.
     
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  7. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy

    You are right regarding the first and second objections. Not for the third: the player shooting the ball did not lift then ball on his own.
    You are right proably in your fourth remark as well but i don't feel offended/nerve stricken at all !! ;-)
     
  8. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    For my personal level of demand, which is very very higher than others ... Diego Armando Maradona, from the entire matches I saw in the 1986 World Cup... he was physically, mentally and tactically in top shape, committed to the project of winning this title. After the 1986 World Cup... I only saw Diego doing pretty well in the Coppa Italia 1986/1987 season and the UEFA Cup 1988/1989 season. In some matches, he reminded me of his incredible performances in the 1986 World Cup.]


    that's it man !



    apart from this

    Diego always very very irregular and inconsistent on the whole Matches

    like

    Jay Jay Okocha
    and Ronaldinho Gaucho

    a lot of juggling ...firulas com a Bola ..
    But ..
    like in the 1989 Copa America in Brazil

    he was humiliated,

    by Romário, Bebeto and Ruben Sosa

    including ..Ruben Sosa ;;

    had several better moments than Maradona .
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


















     
  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    yes, But it is before World Cup 1986 ..


    you mean ..


    Napoli 1 vs 0 JUventus " Platini " .... 1985-1986 .... season Serie A calcio ...








    But here again you are only basing yourself on one entire match???

    there is...more++ a real average of the other 29 entire matches of this championship

    to be observed with care, real attention and seriousness . !
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    Honestly, I'm not part of any player's fan club,]

    I only
    ]
    talk more about

    the most underrated players in history...

    like

    Muller
    Gerd Muller
    Thuram
    Patrick Vieira
    Matthias Sammer
    Ruud Gullit
    Zito
    Professor Zagallo
    Platini
    Piantoni
    Kopa
    Jonquet
    Muller the français
    Didi
    Mauro Ramos
    Ramos Delgado
    Netzer
    Overath
    Antonio Careca
    Van Hanegem
    Ruben Sosa
    Pedro Rocha
    Keizer Piet
    Paul Breitner
    Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck
    etc..etc,.etc..

    there are several who are criminally underestimated

    by the sports media
    and fans who are alienated from dribbling skills nowadays . !
     
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Hans Peter Briegel !
    Antonio Di Gennaro
    Pietro Fanna !
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  14. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy
    You are really into italian football of the 80s. To an extent that surprises me. Di Gennaro, Fanna were good players, solid, but no superstars. They used to be popular: those that are 50 yo or so (like me) remember them well, but otherwise they have been nearly forgotten even in Italy.
     
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  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Antonio Di Gennaro, Fanna


    yes, I saw articles about them , recently !


    well .. Pietro Fanna ... honestly impress me much more +++ than David Beckham


    Antonio Di Gennaro ...honestly impress me more +++ ..than .. Frank Lampard 0r Steven Gerrard .. !

    Di Gennaro and Pietro Fanna

    But they failed

    to gain more prominence or importance

    in the Italian National Team side

    between

    1983 and 1986 ! i saw this recently researching about them . !

    but it is worth

    comparing them with these English players

    who left the English National Team side 60 years without titles !



    Di Gennaro

    super Vision
    ambi-dextrous feet
    Long range Balls
    free-kick taking
    Genius touch
    PLays one-twos
    Decisions

    and

    `Pietro Fanna

    superb Crossing qualities
    Super Vision
    Corner-kick taking
    free-kick taking
    Expert in Set-Pieces
    ambi-dextrous feet
    dynamic
    versatil


    crossing always to Hans Peter Briegel in the Six Yards area Zone ..
    crossing always to Galderisi in the far post ..

    routines from Set-Pieces



    pretty amazing to watch this . !
     
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Gennaro also dribbling skills ...

    he gives some sombreros during the whole Matches ..that i saw recently !


    Genius !
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024







    i've liked it


    Pasinato

    Pasinato

    Inter and Ac Milan player !
     
  18. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy

    Well if you are interested in researching deeper into early 80s serie A, I would suggest a handful of names that failed to secure a place in NT but nevertheless deservedly got to be supporters favourites :

    -Roberto Pruzzo of course (his exclusion from the list of players summoned to take part to WC82 caused a huge lot of controversy)
    and Agostino Di Bartolomei (AS Roma)
    -Evaristo Beccalossi, Graziano Bini (Inter Milan)
    -Bruno Giordano (Lazio, Napoli) and Giuseppe Bruscolotti (Napoli)
    -Massimo Palanca (Catanzaro)
    -Aldo Maldera (AC Milan)
     
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  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Agostino Di Bartolomei (AS Roma)



    I saw alot playing with Falcão and Cerezo .. !


    Shoots from Distance
    Long Range Balls
    Shoots with Power
    Leadership
    team-work
     
  20. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
     
  21. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  22. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    Rest in peace Diogo Jota
     
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  23. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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  24. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Lately, I’ve been completely obsessed with trying to find a player who actually got the better of Lilian Thuram. I’ve watched tons of footage, and honestly, I still haven’t found one.

    Take Thierry Henry, for example. He managed to dominate world-class full-backs like Cafu and Zanetti, but when it came to Thuram, it was a different story. Every time they faced off, Thuram completely neutralized him. Henry didn’t even try to take him on. He would pass backwards, avoid direct duels, or even switch flanks just to stay away from him. It’s crazy, in one of the videos I watched, you can literally see Henry switch sides after realizing he wasn’t going to get anything out of the left wing against Thuram.

    I’ve already looked at clips involving Zidane, Ronaldo, and Henry, and in every single one, Thuram comes out on top. It’s like every video turns into a defensive masterclass from him. Even on the attacking end, when you see Zidane or Baggio making a cross or long pass, Thuram is always the one on the receiving end or cleaning up the play.

    @carlito86 do you have any suggestions for other elite dribblers from the late '90s who might’ve actually given Thuram trouble? Because as of now, he’s looking untouchable
     
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