Greater Performances of the 50's, 60's 70's 80s and 90's

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 17, 2025

Frank73 said: ↑

As I have claimed here a few times before, I think Gullit vs Napoli in serie A 87-88 (especially the match in Milano, but the one in Naples also, though to a slightly lesser extent) asserted the most authoritative stance of preeminence that I have witnessed with my own eyes. Now Maradona's fans can come with all their excel files on goal contribution, clutch assist or whatever: factual truth is that those days, no one that was even just a tad more competent than utter incompetence remotely doubted that there had come a new sheriff in town.
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one performance .... really great ..... on my view ...

was from Brio...the italian defender .... from JUventus Turin...

JUventus ........2 .......vs .............0 ........... As Roma ....... 1986/1987 ...... season....Serie A Calcio ....

Brio and Platini.... destroying ..on this Match ...completely .......]]

......... Platini ....... Two Assists ....(Opta .) .... and tackles won %..... winning the second ball always on this Match .... super vision ...... vertical Passes and Diagonal Passes ...mentality...

Brio ........gave ....... 6 sombreros .......Into the game ... !

really amazing.......... and as always accuracy % at defensive whole Job ...there "!

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 17, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Those were very good performances but not better than Ronaldo vs Parma imo
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for you Isaias Serafim .......my friend ... Italian Football was died ?????

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 17, 2025

Frank73 said: ↑

Super impressive dribbling skills by Lentini here. But overall he was quite inconsistent and lazy. Even though the car crash he got involved into (he was driving to meet Schillaci's ex wife, for those who do not turn their nose up at gossip) that gave him serious neurological issues, he could have achieved a much higher status in italian football history: talent-wise he was well equipped for sure.
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.... currently ......... Italian Football is over Frank 1973 ... ??????????????????

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 17, 2025

Frank73 said: ↑

Super impressive dribbling skills by Lentini here. But overall he was quite inconsistent and lazy. Even though the car crash he got involved into (he was driving to meet Schillaci's ex wife, for those who do not turn their nose up at gossip) that gave him serious neurological issues, he could have achieved a much higher status in italian football history: talent-wise he was well equipped for sure.
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Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Those were very good performances but not better than Ronaldo vs Parma imo
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for me ..
one brazilian player.... that was incredible ....

is called ...Rivaldo ....... What a player .. !

Frank73 · Nov 18, 2025

Wiliam Felipe Gracek said: ↑

you've surprised me aLot ...Frank 1973 ... .honestly ... i wasn't waiting ....by Gullit ...

in your view ,.. "!
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Zico is my favorite player, I mean, he was the epitome of futbol-arte, a feast for the eye, the player that you would always like to see when you sit down in front of the TV. Gullit did not even come near to Zico in this respect. But to me, Gullit against Maradona's Napoli in 1988 really seemed "unplayable" to an extent that was unprecedented and remained unmatched thereafter. Concerning Zico, I'd choose France 1981 and Liverpool: nobody else ever approached perfection that closely against world class opponents. No way Ronaldinho. And not even Messi.

Frank73 · Nov 18, 2025

Wiliam Felipe Gracek said: ↑

.... currently ......... Italian Football is over Frank 1973 ... ??????????????????
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Sadly, it seems so.

Frank73 · Nov 18, 2025

Wiliam Felipe Gracek said: ↑

you've surprised me aLot ...Frank 1973 ... .honestly ... i wasn't waiting ....by Gullit ...

in your view ,.. "!
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If raw effectiveness is of concern, Gullit at his prime was all timer at least. But you would ahve never seen him (and maybe no one else) doing these plays that effortlessly.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EU6d4j02J70?feature=share

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Frank73 said: ↑

If raw effectiveness is of concern, Gullit at his prime was all timer at least. But you would ahve never seen him (and maybe no one else) doing these plays that effortlessly.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EU6d4j02J70?feature=share
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yes ,,;;;;;;;;;; Zico .......... Style of play ...withOut injuries was like Lionel Messi ....playing ...Football .... always ..vertical direction ...

Zico...

playing...
for Barcelona FC...

during Messi's time...

and without chronic injuries...
like in the...

70s and 80s... ....were

honestly, with the same infrastructure...as Messi...

and good pitches..., light balls...

he really could...

surpass Pelé10, the King...

not only Cristiano Ronaldo...
or Messi the own himself...

Isaías Silva Serafim · Nov 18, 2025

Wiliam Felipe Gracek said: ↑

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for you Isaias Serafim .......my friend ... Italian Football was died ?????
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After Calciopoli Serie A became a one horse league with Juve winning 9 consecutive scudettos. Now with the decline of Juve, Inter became a stronger team reaching 2 cl finals in 23 and 25. I don't think it's dead at all but it's far worse than it used to be. And I don't think it will ever come back to what it used to be. The tendency is for Premier League distantiate each time more and more from the other leagues. Florentino Perez tried to solve this with the super league but he failed. Now Premier League will become the super league

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Frank73 said: ↑

Zico is my favorite player, I mean, he was the epitome of futbol-arte, a feast for the eye, the player that you would always like to see when you sit down in front of the TV. Gullit did not even come near to Zico in this respect. But to me, Gullit against Maradona's Napoli in 1988 really seemed "unplayable" to an extent that was unprecedented and remained unmatched thereafter. Concerning Zico, I'd choose France 1981 and Liverpool: nobody else ever approached perfection that closely against world class opponents. No way Ronaldinho. And not even Messi.
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Ac Milan .......................................4 ...............vs ......................... 1 .......... Napoli ..

1987/1988 ........ Serie A Calcio ............january ...........Home-Game ...

Ac milan ..... 21.... falli fatti ...
Napoli ......21 ;;...... falli fatti .........

Ac Milan...3 ....... fuori-gioco

Napoli .........5 .......fuori-gioco

Ac Milan ..............13 .......... corner -kick
Napoli .................. 1.............corner-kick ..........

Ac Milan .............18 ............tiri in porta ....
Napoli .............3 .............tiri in porta .............

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Ac Milan ................ 0.............. parate........
Napoli ................... 4................parate ............

Philips Computer from Holland ..........

was a pure comeback and a Total Massacre ....... for Ac Milan ...............

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Frank73 said: ↑

If raw effectiveness is of concern, Gullit at his prime was all timer at least. But you would ahve never seen him (and maybe no one else) doing these plays that effortlessly.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EU6d4j02J70?feature=share
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yes ..

They are completely different styles Of play ...on the field

...completely different ways of interpreting the Calcio .......

But...both
bring and fulfill their role for the teams .

on Zico and on Gullit ..........I mean .... !

They are different art forms...

but...it's still art.

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Frank73 said: ↑

If raw effectiveness is of concern, Gullit at his prime was all timer at least. But you would ahve never seen him (and maybe no one else) doing these plays that effortlessly.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EU6d4j02J70?feature=share
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Gullit ..... Tactical Awareness .... Level ..... is completely ..Insane .. !

MasterClass .......... at all ...

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

After Calciopoli Serie A became a one horse league with Juve winning 9 consecutive scudettos. Now with the decline of Juve, Inter became a stronger team reaching 2 cl finals in 23 and 25. I don't think it's dead at all but it's far worse than it used to be. And I don't think it will ever come back to what it used to be. The tendency is for Premier League distantiate each time more and more from the other leagues. Florentino Perez tried to solve this with the super league but he failed. Now Premier League will become the super league
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Marcelo said more in the Optics section... about pure Italian players and the Italian National Team...side in general . "

Although... Inter Milan...

reached...
two UEFA Champions League finals...recently...

But

Denzel Dumfries...is Dutch...

Lukaku...is Belgian...

Lautaro is Argentinian
etc. etc....etc....

So...Italian football has really been in decline for several years in a row...

Only... Mourinho's Inter Milan...at 2010 ...and 2011 ..

was...

The last flight of the golden swan... at Italy

and Italy in 2006 World Cup ...

later ...

It was downhill

and highly decay ..at all . !

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

After Calciopoli Serie A became a one horse league with Juve winning 9 consecutive scudettos. Now with the decline of Juve, Inter became a stronger team reaching 2 cl finals in 23 and 25. I don't think it's dead at all but it's far worse than it used to be. And I don't think it will ever come back to what it used to be. The tendency is for Premier League distantiate each time more and more from the other leagues. Florentino Perez tried to solve this with the super league but he failed. Now Premier League will become the super league
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players
as

Ibra
Gonzalo Higuain
Pirlo
C.Tevez
Dybala
Pogba Paul
Marek Hamšík
Edinson Cavani [9]
Dries Mertens
Ezequiel Lavezzi
and
Antonio Di Natale " Toto Di Natale "

They shone in a... Italian championship that was already very weak, dubious, and decadent.

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

After Calciopoli Serie A became a one horse league with Juve winning 9 consecutive scudettos. Now with the decline of Juve, Inter became a stronger team reaching 2 cl finals in 23 and 25. I don't think it's dead at all but it's far worse than it used to be. And I don't think it will ever come back to what it used to be. The tendency is for Premier League distantiate each time more and more from the other leagues. Florentino Perez tried to solve this with the super league but he failed. Now Premier League will become the super league
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..Javier Pastore ...also .......!

...Yoann Gourcuff

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

After Calciopoli Serie A became a one horse league with Juve winning 9 consecutive scudettos. Now with the decline of Juve, Inter became a stronger team reaching 2 cl finals in 23 and 25. I don't think it's dead at all but it's far worse than it used to be. And I don't think it will ever come back to what it used to be. The tendency is for Premier League distantiate each time more and more from the other leagues. Florentino Perez tried to solve this with the super league but he failed. Now Premier League will become the super league
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....Robinho
and Alexandre Pato .........also ... in 2011 ... !

Isaías Silva Serafim · Nov 18, 2025

Wiliam Felipe Gracek said: ↑

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Marcelo said more in the Optics section... about pure Italian players and the Italian National Team...side in general . "

Although... Inter Milan...

reached...
two UEFA Champions League finals...recently...

But

Denzel Dumfries...is Dutch...

Lukaku...is Belgian...

Lautaro is Argentinian
etc. etc....etc....

So...Italian football has really been in decline for several years in a row...

Only... Mourinho's Inter Milan...at 2010 ...and 2011 ..

was...

The last flight of the golden swan... at Italy

and Italy in 2006 World Cup ...

later ...

It was downhill

and highly decay ..at all . !
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Conte/Allegri's Juve had more Italian players with 103 points at Serie A and 2 finals in 15 and 17 with Pirlo, Chiellini, Bonucci and Buffon. Mourinho's Inter had no Italian player. Julio Cesar, Maicon and Lucio Brazilian. Samuel, Cambiasso, Zanetti and Milito Argentinians. Sneijder dutch, Eto'o from Cameron. Chivu and Pandev not from Italy

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Conte/Allegri's Juve had more Italian players with 103 points at Serie A and 2 finals in 15 and 17 with Pirlo, Chiellini, Bonucci and Buffon. Mourinho's Inter had no Italian player. Julio Cesar, Maicon and Lucio Brazilian. Samuel, Cambiasso, Zanetti and Milito Argentinians. Sneijder dutch, Eto'o from Cameron. Chivu and Pandev not from Italy
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I've mentioned more ++++

because ...Marco Materazzi ....

Details
9 July 2006
20:00 CEST
Italy 1–1 (a.e.t.) France

Materazzi 19'

Report

Zidane 7' (pen.)

Penalties

Pirlo ..................

Materazzi

De Rossi

Del Piero

Grosso

5–3

........... Wiltord

.............. Trezeguet

............... Abidal

.................... Sagnol

Olympiastadion, Berlin[4]
Attendance: 69,000[4]
Referee: Horacio Elizondo (Argentina)[4]

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Conte/Allegri's Juve had more Italian players with 103 points at Serie A and 2 finals in 15 and 17 with Pirlo, Chiellini, Bonucci and Buffon. Mourinho's Inter had no Italian player. Julio Cesar, Maicon and Lucio Brazilian. Samuel, Cambiasso, Zanetti and Milito Argentinians. Sneijder dutch, Eto'o from Cameron. Chivu and Pandev not from Italy
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Squad information
As of 1 February 2010[18]
Squad no. Name Nationality Position Date of birth (age)
Goalkeepers
1 Francesco Toldo GK 2 December 1971 (aged 38)
12 Júlio César .................... GK 3 September 1979 (aged 30)
21 Paolo Orlandoni GK 12 August 1972 (aged 37)
Defenders
2 Iván Córdoba (vice-captain) .............. CB 11 August 1976 (aged 33)
4 Javier Zanetti (captain) .............. RB / CM / RM 10 August 1973 (aged 36)
6 Lúcio ................. CB 8 May 1978 (aged 32)
13 Maicon .................... RB 26 July 1981 (aged 28)
23 Marco Materazzi CB 19 August 1973 (aged 36)
25 Walter Samuel ............. CB 23 March 1978 (aged 32)
26 Cristian Chivu ............. LB / CB / DM 26 October 1980 (aged 29)
39 Davide Santon RB / LB 2 January 1991 (aged 19)
Midfielders
5 Dejan Stanković ............... CM / AM 11 September 1978 (aged 31)
8 Thiago Motta DM / CM 17 June 1984 (aged 26)
10 Wesley Sneijder ............... AM / CM / LW 9 June 1984 (aged 26)
11 Sulley Muntari ............. CM 27 August 1984 (aged 25)
15 Rene Krhin CM 21 May 1990 (aged 20)
17 McDonald Mariga DM / CM 4 April 1987 (aged 23)
19 Esteban Cambiasso ................. DM / CM
Forwards
7 Ricardo Quaresma ................. RW 26 September 1983 (aged 26)
9 Samuel Eto'o CF 10 March 1981 (aged 29)
22 Diego Milito CF 12 June 1979 (aged 31)
27 Goran Pandev ................. SS / RW / CF 25 March 1983 (aged 27)
45 Mario Balotelli SS / RW / CF 2 January 1991 (aged 19)
89 Marko Arnautović .................. CF 19 April 1989 (aged 21)
Players transferred out during the season

14 Patrick Vieira ............. CM / DM 23 June 1976 (aged 34)
18 David Suazo .................. CF 5 November 1979 (aged 30)
30 Mancini .............. LW / RW 1 August 1980 (aged 29)

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Conte/Allegri's Juve had more Italian players with 103 points at Serie A and 2 finals in 15 and 17 with Pirlo, Chiellini, Bonucci and Buffon. Mourinho's Inter had no Italian player. Julio Cesar, Maicon and Lucio Brazilian. Samuel, Cambiasso, Zanetti and Milito Argentinians. Sneijder dutch, Eto'o from Cameron. Chivu and Pandev not from Italy
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yes .... I know this .... Isaias Serafim .......!

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Conte/Allegri's Juve had more Italian players with 103 points at Serie A and 2 finals in 15 and 17 with Pirlo, Chiellini, Bonucci and Buffon. Mourinho's Inter had no Italian player. Julio Cesar, Maicon and Lucio Brazilian. Samuel, Cambiasso, Zanetti and Milito Argentinians. Sneijder dutch, Eto'o from Cameron. Chivu and Pandev not from Italy
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Italian football has lost the glamour , Global media and charm of the 80s and 90s.

Isaías Silva Serafim · Nov 18, 2025

Wiliam Felipe Gracek said: ↑

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Italian football has lost the glamour , Global media and charm of the 80s and 90s.
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Yeah, nowdays it's Premier League and LaLiga filled with homegrown talents and worldclass players

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Yeah, nowdays it's Premier League and LaLiga filled with homegrown talents and worldclass players
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yes.... perfect vision at all !....

I agree with you dear Mate ...on this ..yes .. "!

Wiliam Felipe Gracek · Nov 18, 2025

Isaías Silva Serafim said: ↑

Yeah, nowdays it's Premier League and LaLiga filled with homegrown talents and worldclass players
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