Government Censorship and the Iraq War

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by DoctorJones24, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...031103/us_nm/economy_housing_affordability_dc

    "While U.S. officials say the policy was created out of respect for relatives, others criticize the lack of media access, arguing its aim is to prevent the public from seeing large numbers of coffins that could turn public opinion against the war."

    The idea that this policy has anything to do with respect for the "trauma" of the soldiers' relatives is horseshiit. This is a naked move by the government to shape how the war is presented to the American public.

    And I love the journalistic gusto of this muckraker: "We were a bit surprised by the sudden ban (on covering coffins)," said Andy Eckardt, a producer based in Mainz for NBC who covered about five such transfers there in recent years. "But we follow the regulations. What can I do? It's the military. They own the base."

    Actually, this spinelessness is the real danger here. One would expect a democratic government to try stuff like this: of course they want to shape the coverage of the war! But we're supposed to have a free press calling these people out, challenging them on such things.

    When the rules were first created in 91, a group led by Harpers Mag actually did take the government to court to challenge the rules. Not only did the liberal press like NYT, WaPo, and all the major networks not JOIN the lawsuit, but they didn't even cover the fact that such a lawsuit existed.
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More disturbing is the Ministry of Truth operation the Bushies have going. First they changed the White House website so that the POTUS was saying "major combat operations" when in real life he said "combat operations." Then they disappeared an old quote from USAID massively underestimating the reconstruction costs in Iraq. There are one or two others I've forgotten.
     
  3. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just wondering why the link is to an article on home affordability? Is the government this quick to cover stuff up, even on Big Soccer???
     
  4. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The government has subpoenaed an IP address of a BigSoccer user in the past.
     
  5. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    The "home affordability" article was just FYI. ;)
    But now I can't find the AP report from Yahoo that I meant to link, so here's one on the same issue:
    http://www.azstarnet.com/star/thu/31030THOMAS-HNS.html
     
  6. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Who, that guy that used to be the moderator of the Holland forum that would come in here and talk about how he wanted to kill Bush?
     
  7. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [Bart Simpson]Coooollll!!![/Bart Simpson]
     
  8. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I don't know who it was.
     
  9. cj herrera

    cj herrera New Member

    May 7, 1999
    Oakland, damn straig

    Mission Accomplished
     
  10. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    oh we gotta know this story! superdave get on it!
     
  11. mattie g

    mattie g Member

    Nov 12, 1999
    Northern VA
    Why do (American) people want to see the coffins of American servicemen anyway? Is there some sort of morbid fascination with it?

    Is the media obligated to provide images of these coffins in order to allow the public to see "large numbers of coffins that could turn public opinion against the war"?
     
  12. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    As an American I really don't want to see the coffins of American GIs. But I also don't want my government to tell me I can't see the coffins of GIs.
     
  13. Finnegan

    Finnegan Member

    Sep 5, 2001
    Portland Oregon
    Bingo - if they are going to such elaborate efforts to prevent the coverage of solidiers who they already admit have died...what else are they covering up?
     
  14. cj herrera

    cj herrera New Member

    May 7, 1999
    Oakland, damn straig
    This statement would be hilarious if it wasn't so frightening. I mean, really, why do we need a free press at all?

    This administration has raised stonewalling and secrecy to a new black art form.

    Bush has held 10, count em 10, news conferences in three years. No president in the last 50 years has held fewer. Pathetic.

    His comment about "the filter" of the news is basically asking the US public to believe only what the white house says -- everything else is slanted against him. Contemptible, yet somehow sad.

    As mentioned above, the White House has manipulated its web site to prevent web engines from archiving portions of the White House website related to Iraq. And they have altered dated texts. (A big shout out to the Stalinists.)

    Not to mention the Cheney energy meeting notes (huh? whuh?), the lack of cooperation with the 9/11 commission (wheh? who?), the evidence on Iraq (oh, we left those at Tony Blair's house -- I'll get em later). It's like the Vinnie Barbarino administration.

    Now they have the gall to try block the most basic images of war, the return of this country's fallen soldiers. I may be as against this war as anyone can be, but I know some people who have been in this war and probably will be there again. And it's an insult to our intelligence, to our freedoms and to the families by claiming it's for their protection that they're manipulating and blocking basic news coverage. Disgusting.
     
  15. Hard Karl

    Hard Karl New Member

    Sep 3, 2002
    WB05 Compound
  16. mattie g

    mattie g Member

    Nov 12, 1999
    Northern VA
    What statement, cj? It was a question. If you don't want to answer the question, then why bother quoting my post?
     

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