Actually, I’m a little disappointed on it because it has been less of a sh!tshow than I expected: Stefanik: This Republican Majority has exceeded all expectations pic.twitter.com/8HytPwtUjk— Acyn (@Acyn) October 3, 2023
She did the math Kevin McCarthy served as speaker for approximately 27 Scaramuccis. pic.twitter.com/k1sqL7Cve9— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) October 3, 2023
McCarthy is the main author of the chaos - because he promised the freaks whatever they wanted, in a desperate and amoral effort to elevate his own personal status. McCarthy is also a dedicated supporter of the the authoritarian and terrorist wing of the Republican party. Remember, he knows full well that Donald Trump actively promoted and supported a violent attempt to overthrow US democracy, including the horrific attacks on the police who were defending the Capitol. He spoke to Trump on the phone while it was happening; he knows. And, knowing what he knows, he immediately cut a deal with Trump - promising to cover up the terrorist attack and to betray his country, in exchange for a would-be dictator's political backing. And then he did his very best to deliver on that promise. McCarthy is one of the most despicable figures in American political history, and any amount of power in his hands represents a malignant growth on our democracy. It's utterly bizarre to argue that Democrats are obligated to come to his aid.
The LP rapid response team strikes again. New GOP Speaker Pro Temp means business! https://t.co/MSyFRUilK5 pic.twitter.com/OdPw9QoVuL— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) October 3, 2023
They need to get it done tonight. Tomorrow, America's attention turns to more important voting when the Fat Bear Week polls open. https://www.nps.gov/katm/learn/fat-bear-week-2023.htm https://explore.org/meet-the-bears
I'm curious, why are you having the Dems run on the same train line as the Freedom Caucus, rather than on parallel line?
Are people just deliberately not reading his posts, and instead attacking what they're projecting onto his posts? He never implied the Democrats turned down such a deal. Instead, what he actually said is that the Democrats should have offered such a deal to the Repugs today. Now, you may think that would have been a bad idea; and maybe it would have been a bad idea. But at least take issue with what he's actually said, rather than the strawman you'd rather joust with.
I just want t make sure you understand this point: The above quote is from an NPR piece from January. Members of the minority party in the House never vote for the other party's guy in the Speaker vote. Put another way, they never play games with what the other party needs to do. Never. It is the majority party's responsibility to elect a speaker with its own caucus.
Frankly, I think a citizen wanting to be informed about the political state of the United States would do themselves a disservice watching "Face the Nation", a monument to self-serving narratives. But wouldn't it be de rigueur for congressfolks to watch this to keep abreast on the outward face of the other side? And even if they don't watch it, shouldn't they be reading second-hand accounts? Why are they surprised when seeing that clip? Why is a person reading BigSoccer more informed than people in Congress? And how awesome is "de rigueur"? Man, any post that uses that looks as smart as a whip. Which isn't as true for "smart as a whip". Now I sound like a old cow poke. I should have quit while I was ahead. What was I talking about again?
I think what we were doing was speculating about deals that could have been made. I suppose it's clear now that there was no deal to be made.
This was written in the present tense, when it seems to me that it should have been written in the past tense: "Members of the minority party in the House have never voted for the other party's guy..." and "they have never played games..." In other words, it seems to me like the above is simply saying "this is the way it's always been done" -- which, while true, does not dictate that things cannot be done differently. Is there some House rule of procedure that would prevent Democrats from so acting? If not, then why isn't the question whether it would have been a good idea for them to do so, rather than "they can't because they never have before"?
It's not that it's a bad idea, at all. Just so impractical as to be completely pointless to discuss. It would be more practical (barely!) to discuss a plan to have all the Democrats eat nothing but baked beans for a week and then fart so much that they drive the GOPs out of the House and then elect Jeffries. Because that has a non-zero chance of working.
I'm going to dissent here. Speaker votes are a majority-party affair. If the majority party can't sort out its internal affairs so as to maintain its majority, then the majority party voted itself down.
The only morally acceptable deal that Democrats could make with the GOP would involve a commitment that their leadership would cease to support the power ambitions of people who believe that the violent destruction of American democracy is preferable to losing elections. Since McCarthy would never make that commitment, he's worthless. It's worth noting that there are 18 House Republicans currently serving in districts that Joe Biden won. Some of them claim to be moderates, and all of them claim to be patriots. No one is forcing them to stay in a political party whose leaders have demonstrated a willingness to sell the country out to terrorists and traitors. They are free to live up to their claims of moderation and patriotism at any time.