Goodbye presents

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by GringoTex, Sep 6, 2002.

  1. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    I'll be handing out presents for the next couple of days.

    This one is for Ian:

    The "Star Spangled Banner" is too patriotic, divisive and political, so organizers of UC Berkeley's day-long tribute to the victims and heroes of 9-11 are excluding it. "God Bless America" is doubly excluded. Not only is it patriotic, but it also mentions God, something else that is taboo next Wednesday.

    The Sept. 11 Day of Remembrance, sponsored by the Chancellor's office, the student body government and the Graduate Assembly, will also feature student leaders distributing white ribbons, instead of the red, white and blue ones they had originally planned.

    "We thought that may be just too political, too patriotic," said Hazel Wong, chief organizer for the Associated Students of the University of California (ASUC). "We didn't want anything too centered on nationalism-anything that is 'Go U.S.A.'"

    Jessica Quindel, president of the Graduate Assembly, a key player in the planning, said the day's events are about more than just grieving. She said the day is, in fact, about politics. And it's not just about Sept. 11, but also the aftermath, including President Bush's response to the terrorist attacks.

    "We are trying to stay away from supporting Bush," Quindel said. "We don't want to isolate people on this campus who disagree with the reaction to Sept. 11."

    Quindel, a self avowed hater of the American Flag, the federal government, and the "Star Spangled Banner," said she is still patriotic. "It depends on your definition of patriotism. Everyone has a different definition," she said.

    Also, to prevent the exclusion of those who don't believe in the American Flag, there will be no tribute to the flag. "The flag has become a symbol of U.S. aggression towards other countries. It seems hostile," Quindel said.
  2. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    I agree, my American flag was glaring at me the other day. It seemed hostile.
  3. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    Re: Re: Goodbye presents

    One time I wore mine to a US game Superman style and it almost choked ME! DAMN YOU FLAG!!! YOU SONOVABITCH!
  4. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I don't understand why Americans want to celebrate as a patriotic event an occasion of a major tragedy and of us getting our butts kicked. This is victim-worshiping taken to some obscene level. Why are our heros pilots that get shot down or captured soldiers held in prison or kidnapped journalists or firefighters that didn't get out of a building because their radios didn't work?

    You know who is to fault for this? Phil Donahue. His lame show was full of idiots that got screwed somehow and they told their story to millions of people for sympathy. That sprang all these Ophra and other talk shows, and these stupid million dollar judgements for people that trip on the sidewalk. Phil turned us into a nation of losers.
  5. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Re: Re: Goodbye presents

    It could just be on the wrong diet.
  6. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Goodbye presents

    I'm sorry, but for some reason I just enjoy this quote. May I use it in my sig?

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