Going to Qatar 2022: tickets, accommodations, etc. (non-politics)

Thanks for sharing

can you share the detail of the podcast (tittle-episode) ? I’m interested to hear. Thanks

 

part 1

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/daily-euros-bbc-football-daily/id261291929?i=1000548998556

and part 2

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/qatar-world-cup-special-part-2/id261291929?i=1000549052352

 

I think the average venue size is also much smaller.

 

Thanks so much

 

I also think that based on the first 24 hours request statistic that actually less people applied. Since 2018 and 2022 24-hrs number of ticket requested are simillar. However, this year a person can apply more ticket. So basically applicant number is less

 

you can‘t compare the numbers now and in the past. delayed payment changes nearly everything.

 

what do you mean by delayed payment ? The numbers that I use is the number of people who applied (before the payment)

 

I believe the point is that since you don't have to commit to purchase to apply for tickets this time around, it's easy to just throw in an application even if you're not quite sure whether or not you will end up buying tickets if you get approved.

 

Gotcha that is very good point. Thanks for the explanation.

 

Hi all,
I applied for multiple games in the group stage, all cat 1, does anyone know the chances of me actually getting these tickets in the first draw?
Applied for 5 games so far, looking to get more.
Also, in the first draw will you usually get lower area cat 1 tickets, or tickets higher up in cat 1.
Thanks!

 

I would say 50%

 

Mostly in the later phases, which are not a lottery. Persistence being the key thing. Also, a couple of times FIFA put tickets to the Final on sale in person in the city where the Final was played, which made them pretty easy to purchase, if you knew the time and place and got there early. I was able to buy tickets that way a couple of times. I doubt that they do that again, but who knows. In 2002, FIFA sold up to 4 tickets per person to the Final a few days before the game. But you had to have a Brazilian or German passport, and just line up at a location in Tokyo. Most people bought 4 tickets, kept 1 if they didn't have 1 already, and sold the rest...and paid for their whole trip with the profits. Again, FIFA has not done that since, to my knowledge, and I doubt that FIFA does that this time, but you never know for sure. The point being that FIFA holds onto a lot of tickets to the Final, and they do not put many on sale in the early phases, at least that is what they have done in the past.

 

i thought they were going to be talking about the world up and giving more information of what to expect. This is just the typical fear mongering that the average fan doesn’t care about. Every county is questionable when it comes to how it treats its residents and immigrants that come to the country.

I’m looking forward to attending the WC and I will respect the laws they have in place like if I were to go to any other country.

Sorry Worldcup2022 I meant to reply to the links not to you.

 

I'd say you will be lucky to get 2. And you mightn't get any. But don't let that put you off going. Plenty of time left.

 

I'm not disputing your personal experience, but I don't think FIFA run the lottery in a way that prioritises applicants for solo (or small number of) tickets over applicants for higher numbers.
Doing such would make the process more complicated - without that bias they can just work through each match, shuffle the list of applications for that match into a random order, and work down the list allocating tickets until they run out.
Making it a bit more complicated isn't out of the question of course, but if they wanted to prioritise solo applicants then they'd probably say about it, because that would be far more effective than just sneaking in a bit of bias behind the scenes.
Also, with the amount of chat that goes on around here any time there's a ballot, I'm sure we would have noticed any systematic bias.

 

Very tough to figure out your chances. For Russia 622,000 tickets were distributed in this phase from 3.5 million ticket applications. However this does not mean you can divide 622,000 by 64 etc.

Some of the parameters

1) It appears Cat 3 has been greatly squeezed with Cat 2 expanded.
2) A lot of people will target the Final in particular and the opening match.
3) A lot of local residents will target the cat4 tickets as they are fantastic value. These will be very very tough in this phase.

As of now some games will still have significantly lower demand eg Al Janoub at 1pm on a Tuesday or Al Bayt at 10pm on a Wednesday night will not be attractive to people working during the tournament. Even for those of us who will be there on vacation Education City at 4pm is a better bet (avoids all the hassle with shuttles to AJ) . Khalifa at 7pm is in Doha on the metro rather than the journey up north and arriving back in the early hours of the morning. Now that is my current thinking however if Brazil v Mexico is in Al Bayt and Switzerland v Panama is in Khalifa suddently getting back well after 2am is less of a concern. Obviously if your country is in the game it is a no-brainer.

No chance of knowing or picking upper or lower tier in the stadium.

Anyway not really an answer to the question but definitely your best chance is pick cat 1 and tick the box to accept other categories. The concern then is if you apply for too many games, you get lucky and you get a huge bill.

 

https://m.thepeninsulaqatar.com/art...ts-for-qatar-2022-tickets-in-less-than-a-week

 

Thanks Gary
I heard that Cat 3 seats are reduced by 60% compared to russia, but where did u read it ? Is it in the podcast ?
So fifa is classifying some of the cat 3 as cat 2 and some of cat 2 as cat 1 ?

 

💰 As FIFA announces the most expensive World Cup ever, it also appears that it has drastically reduced the number of affordable tickets.

⬇️ E.g. There are 60% less Category 3 & 4 tickets available at the 974 Stadium in Qatar (right) than there were in Kazan in 2018 (left). https://t.co/0GAJ8WLTCn pic.twitter.com/z3aYoPbUKA

— FSE - Football Supporters Europe (@FansEurope) January 19, 2022

 

My guess is that they have allocated a percentage of tickets to this branch of the sale, and people won't generally apply for them (because there's no obvious reason to), so if the match combinations are suitable for you they are worth applying for.
From FIFA's point of view this is a way to get people to go to several games in quick succession, and that's the best way for them to get match tickets sold when accommodation is a big problem.

There was a vaguely similar thing, "Destination" tickets, in Euro 2016 where in phase 1 you could apply for a certain pair of matches in nearby stadiums a few days apart (e.g. a long weekend) and probably the idea was to incentivise fans to stay a few days in that area of France for a while and spend money there, instead of hooning around the country non-stop. Obviously even if you were thinking of going to those particular matches it's just as easy to apply for them separately, so why bother with the joint ticket? I applied for three of them had 100% success (of course this is just one data point).

Something that's worth bearing in mind in general though is that if you apply for a 4-stadium ticket you will get all or nothing, which might help with planning. (If you apply for several, you will get all or nothing of each set of 4 independently.)

 

I hadn't noticed that the Al Bayt matches were at night, and initially it seems a bit odd with them involving the most transport hassle. But I suppose the idea is that at least all of the stuffing-around is happening when the temperatures are OK?

...Which leads me to wonder whether the opening match (Al Bayt 13:00) could be a bit of a scorcher if you have to spend much time queueing up.

 

No its because of its capacity and game importance (they will allocate the most importsnt games to bayt and lusail) and suitability with broadcasting for europe / usa / south americ

 

Do you think getting bayt and lusail ticket match is the “easiest” in this phase since they have bigger capacity ?

Also, how can they adjust the important match to Bayt and Lusail ? since it will be based on the group drawing and matc orders are following group schedule A to H

 

Good point, I was thinking that apart from Lusail they were all a similar size but you're right, Al Bayt is 60k.

 

Thus far the group phase match schedule just says what match kick-off time is at which stadium and, separately, which matches are on each day (e.g. C3 v C4). After the draw C3 v C4 will be allocated to one of the 4 times/stadiums.