I think I agree with you on the overall process, but I disagree with you about the partial wins percentage. When we have had a lottery like this, I have gotten partially successful a pretty decent amount. Based on reading results here, seemed like a lot of people got partially successful in 2024 as well. Sure, if you get #1,001 and apply for only the most desirable matches in Cat 1, you should get them all. But, if you are #50,000 overall, you might get some and some you won't. I think there's going to be a lot of people who applied for 40 tickets that might get only one or two matches. Maybe they can get more if they did Cat 1 across the board. The venue also matters because it depends on how much the locals care. For whatever reason, I really struggled to get matches in Cologne (even the non-Scotland and non-England ones) for the last Euros, but I had no problem elsewhere.
thats true, if the demand was equal for all matches, you would really see the all or nothing be pronounced. But demand varies between matches, so you will see mixed results.
I see no.evidence of this at all. There is no problem in terms of compute for them.to see the number of requests for each match, randomise those and allocate the winners to each individual allocation. You are conflating the ranking of applications with ranking of requests for each match. For the orevious sales rounds they needed to randomly rank REQUESTS. But remember, the the oresales you just made a request in the hope.of getting a code. The request didnt say which matches you actually wanted.
Others have answered after my post. It is the way FIFA and UEFA have always done it since it went online. I recall FIFA have in the past given a bit more info about the ‘random’ bit but it’s never been transparent in full detail I’m not taking a side on if it’s drawn game by game (my assumption), or total application by application, but the number of tickets you apply for per game is not a factor, unlike Cat. That’s how it’s ‘fair’, each application has the same random chance as any other application for that game, in that Cat.
That's one way to do it, but this way the allocation of tickets across the supporters is not spread out at all. Only the first successful accounts of the lottery will get all the matches they requested. They can also do a lottery per match. This way there is much more success across all the accounts. If there is huge demand per match they can also just delete all applications with 4 tickets so that there are much more successful applications. Not sure if this is what they want but it's very easy to do. We just don't know it and any info about this process is unavailable.
Agreed, we are all speculating. But I don’t see the point of throwing out all 4 ticket apps. Why would they do that? Yes, they could then assign tickets to a higher number of applications overall, but it certainly wouldn’t make it any fairer because any families/groups of friends would just be excluded per se. I don’t have much trust in FIFA, but I think that would occur even to them (especially since they also don’t have any financial benefit from kicking all those out). Anyway, I have in the past always put as many tickets as I could (usually 4, and only stopped this time due to the higher prices) and have been successful nonetheless, so I am very certain you don’t get kicked out asking for 4 tickets.
I don't think they would do that no. But if you really want to do something about people/traders buying up loads of tickets of the most popular games to sell them for profit, this can be a reason. The same for applications with the maximum amount of 40 tickets.
FIFA really don’t give a toss about that, they just want the $’s in the pot and bums on seats at the games…….the anti-touting stuff has always just been lip service, and this time they have joined in.
Agree, but datadome has been filtering apps this time. I wasted hours and hours on Visa presale. All cleansed .
Yes I am being a little naive. You are right, this time they made their own Viagogo website, called the FIFA resale/ marketplace
Further to a post regarding whether this is the final sales phase, I saw yesterday an offer from a travel agent selling a travel package including match tickets. The take up is such that a ticket-only package is now available for certain matches. It is interesting that is happening now. I had a similar offer in 2010, but it was 6weeks before the tournament. Would not surprise me if those tickets are put into this ballot. Let’s face it, FIFA has given themselves enough time between now and February to do so.
Same, now I got smarter how I did the second round, and had a bit of help here, but in the end I got everything I was going for. I am getting to see 5 matches total. I wanted to see the US, I wanted to go to a game in Mexico and I wanted to see a knockout. At this point I am just trying to help out others here who are still looking for tickets.
Yeah, wasted hours loading hundreds of apps. Second phase I was more clinical. Small success. But the big help was buying a couple of logins with email accounts. Got everything I needed. I’m mostly done also; just waiting on US soccers lottery.
REALITY BITES!! E England fans stage World Cup rebellion by rejecting 1,000s of tickets for matches including final because of high prices Prices range from £508 to £1,076 for the last-eight fixture and between £687 to £2,370 for the semi final The revolt could leave as few as 600 supporters at the final on July 19, pictured 82,500-seat MetLife Stadium in New Jersey Figures show up to 98 per cent of the 30,000 members snubbed other tickets — costing from £3,129 to £6,489 — in the 4,500-seat allocation. The tickets they rejected may end up on the controversial resale market set up by Fifa, whose president is Gianni Infantino. For potential quarter-final and semi-final ties, only the category with the most affordable 500 tickets, again priced at £45, have been taken up by fans. Other prices range from £508 to £1,076 for the last-eight fixture and between £687 and £2,370 for the semi.
Overly dramatic English media. . There won’t be 600 English supporters for the Final. They’ll be ZERO… cus they’re not making the final.
No - but it is an independent agency that often does packages through clubs. Is a discrete way of getting rid of unsold inventory without saying a match has not sold out. The agent works with the biggest names. So - it could be via that channel, but doubtful. Regardless, that a package has to be disaggregated, means that they are not flying off the shelves (for some matches). On a similar vein - I just received - as everyone else has - an email regarding official hospitality. Those seats will come to the market eventually. Either as sold hospitality or Cat 1.
Unless you were very unlucky and your application was selected with less than 4 tickets available in the inventory, I don't think apply for 2 tickets instead of 4 gives you an advantage.
My understanding of the ticket allocation in this round based on what I thought used to happen was they do it game by game not application by application starting with all the available Cat1s then all the Cat 2s plus any unfulfilled Cat 1s and then the same with cat 3s with unfilled cat 1s and Cat 2s that are happy to downgrade. It has certainly never been a case of a lot of people getting loads and most nothing because they deal with the person not the individual requests except when UEFA bollocks it up in 2020. Hence why you always have to go for Cat 1 as you have more chances and am always amazed at how many people just go for cat 3. Still not sure how FIFA, in the same time span as normal, are going to do this draw with however many ticket requests they think they have. Maybe they will just dump a load otherwise it could take till may to do it.
Just received an email from the FA regarding verification of FA+ accounts. This is the upgrade membership (cost $100) that you needed to join in order to purchase federation WC tickets. 75% of accounts did not require verification. The rest need to show government i.d (passport, licence etc) or Australian bank details by Tuesday otherwise application will be rejected.
The time is not an issue. Computer power has come on leaps and bounds since the last time they did this. Even if you believe the application numbers.
I was a bit worried when I received the FA+ email that I had been rejected. But once I read their verification methods, if I were rejected, then most others would have been too. I do hope the majority of the 25% of non-verifieds are bogus Aussies. All first round matches were oversubscribed - I need my chances of success to increase.