My guess is; not as many as previous World Cups. The initial price assumes too much risk. There’s no guarantee these prices will hold. And if they do; not enough meat on the bone for touts to assume too much risk. Demand is high; 20 million ticket apps with a credit card requirement is different than Qatar’s 17 million for phase 1. In Qatar anyone could load as many apps as possible. We saw lots of allocations being resold from India. There’s still 4 weeks left. I’m going to change my guess… fifa will hit 40 million requests.
I wonder if they are just taking the Cat 4 tickets and giving them to the associations, so they make less money on the Cat4s than they would have done before. I notice there were no Cat4s IN the general sale. I doubt they have already sold them out. Good luck to the tiny number of fans who get these tickets. Presumably they (such as in England’s case) will be the people who go to every game. Is not really relevant for the tickets of associations that don’t have supporter clubs. Those either go through the resale platform or travel age via - which are de facto resale platforms anyway. I know loads of England regulars who are not going or are only doing the group stages. The conditional KO tickets are only viable for people who have cash they can forget about for 8 months. Some people spend ALL their money on football and don’t have any buffer cash.
Was just going to type that. We've found our Cat 4 tickets! In all seriousness, kudos (I guess) for this adjustment by Fifa It's a nice gesture and 500-ish tickets for the Fed to dole out. Not bad. Major question is how they dole it out and where those seats are.. we will see!
Interesting that they are doing 1 ticket per game (are other Feds doing that as well?). I can definitely see them not allowing you to resell but don't see how you couldn't transfer it in that scenario. But they could potentially restrict any transfer or resale. We won't know until February-ish I assume.
Sounds like the worst case scenario for us fans. If the numbers are real, then despite the absurdly high prices, most matches are actually underpriced based on the market demand we're seeing.
Am not so sure. I think the highest priced group matches are the oversubscribed ones. There are a lot of applications but I think they are skewed to those games.
I think the pricing floors are being kept high by FIFA controlling the supply. For sure A handful of group matches have really high floors; but we'll see in late February what the real floors are when the current batch of tickets hits the market. Also, I'm going to guess most of the $60 tickets will hit the secondary market with massive profit margins. Because the entry point is low; those tickets will control pricing floors for a bit.
Let's assume 90% are for high demand matches... at 20M, that's 2M requests for other matches. If FIFA gets 40M requests by Feb13 ... that's 4M tickets for other games. At what percentage do we accept demand is real? There's only aprox 3.5M left to sell.
Not sure about Dutch supporter tickets, but I used a supporter ticket at Qatar 2022 for England and I'm not English. I paid direct to the seller not on the resale platform and they transferred the ticket to my account. I don't know how your FA might control the ticket once it is transferred to you. They could code something into the ticketing app, but that's not FIFA's modus operandi.
FIFA’s never been too concerned about preventing resale of the supporters tickets, either to prevent ticket scalping or avoid opposing fans ending up there. For Qatar, you could submit supporters tickets back into the FIFA resale portal, where they could be bought by anyone. At least in the US allocation. And they always sell the extra federation allocation tickets to the general public. For the Morocco R16 and QF matches in Qatar, the Morocco federation asked for and was given the large amount of tickets returned to FIFA by Spain and Portugal. So there were Morocco sections behind both goals at those matches.
They did mention that the new “entry” supporters tickets were coming out of the “value” allocation for each team. So I’d assume they’ll all be located together in the “value” sections on those maps. There’s no such thing as a category “selling out”. FIFA makes it up as they go
The only federations that make tickets available to supporters are euros and some Asians. Latin federations are likely having a party tonight. 60 dollar allocations that will 100% end up on viagogo 10 seconds after they’re received. Only euros have this “naive sense” of “football is for the poor”. In Latin America and US that disappeared decades ago. But congratulations to euros… may you get your tickets and make 26 lively.
This is a really bad take. It's because football in Europe is about the community, not "for the poor" in lots of places.
“The community” includes both poor and rich though. Europe just handles these things differently because the overall culture is more egalitarian than what you see in the Americas. That’s the reason. Anyway, that’s not a discussion we need to have in this thread.
I agree it’s bad. But it’s also reality like it or not. None of the 60 dollar allocation tickets to Latin countries will land in ANY Latin team fan. NONE! The biggest supporters nation in the world is Mexico and their federation has NEVER made one single ticket available to Mexican fans… ever . Wake up .or not…
My problem is that they are doing for all games, thus I suspect they are selling the advertising breaks. I like American football, I have season tickets to my local college team. I hate the constant advertising and game breaks. I fear this becomes permanent in all soccer leagues.
Heads up if you have millions of American Airlines miles. Tomorrow you can redeem for tickets to all matches (although prices are 2-3x higher than the last promotion) https://www.aavacations.com/fifa-wc-26/fifa-coming-soon
This is exactly what it appears they are doing with the Canada allocation. Giving them to the federation and letting them (or the Voyageurs) deal with it
To put it another way, there are only 15 matches that are truly low demand. Those 15 matches have just over 500,000 left to them unsold. Every other match is going to have no problem selling out at current prices. If only 1% of the 40 million applications are for the bottom 15 matches. That is 400,000 of the 500,000 sold. If FIFA wants to sell every ticket this window (I assume they don't), I think they could get damn close, like 98% sold out. When they have the final FCFS the 3-5 'dregs' matches will be available in Cat 1 and 2 only. And like a few weeks before the tournament they will turn to Cat 3.
Can people outside of Mexico access their resale? I know they cant upmarket their tickets that all, just was thinking
Probably 19 Million 20 Million Applications for a Cycle consisting of a 104 Games is not impressive its nearly 2 World Cups. Having to automatically pay for the tickets you've applied for "once allocated" proves theyre trying to get rid of the tickets asap , if the demand was any good we would have seen such methods adopted in previous cycles. (Probably stung by the Harsh reality of the CWC, Which btw couldve been alot more appreciated as a tournament if it was held anywhere else). Im not really sure if this the Official World Cup Song (Let aside the fact that its Robbie Williams' worst output ever) but at 240k views in 5 Months im guessing its a good indicator , same indicator that matches the ZERO Hype for the tournament. Its like they absolutely not care. Give us the money and go away! Thats the current attitude. As an international fan im not looking to pay the country's debt , im only trying to watch the World Cup.
The question is , is it 20 million Application or 20 million request for tickets. Fifa website says "20 million ticket requests," So looks like just tickets, then majority will be for those some 15-20 games.
Forget this phase, the coming FCFS would be even worse. I'm gonna be sticking to FA and try to be placed in the top tier to avoid all this bs for next time.
cape verde vs saudi on the resale portal already going for significantly below fifa retail face value hopefully some more games will be like that with enough time, although i won't expect a lot to be overall
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