Goff/Post: For Gomez, Nothing is Lost in Translation

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Sanguine, Oct 28, 2004.

  1. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7521-2004Oct28.html

    The guy came in at the right time with the right skill set and the right attitude. Hopefully we can keep him around next year.
     
  2. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    How 'bout a link to the article for us lazy folk ;)
     
  3. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    my bad. I had trouble submitting the first time, and forgot the link when I tried again. It's in there now. :)
     
  4. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Good piece from Goff like always. While I was a little doubtful of Gomez initally, he has been great...if he does the same fitness program as Moreno this offseason, that duo will be something else.
     
  5. BBBulldog

    BBBulldog Member+

    Jun 25, 2004
    Dinamo Zagreb
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    rofl
     
  6. JRstriker12

    JRstriker12 New Member

    Jan 27, 2002
    Falls Church, VA
    I guess coming from Argentina, having a paycheck - even an MLS sized check - come in ontime is a plus. ;)

    Good to hear that soccer is truly an international language and Gomez is leting his game talk for him. I hope hear him speak again this weekend!
     
  7. fillmorejive

    fillmorejive New Member

    Jan 14, 2004
    LA
    Thanks for the read, a good article. He seems like a guy that knows he needs to earn his position and it won't be given to him just for putting on the kit. As have a few other imports, he remarked about the physicallity of MLS.
     
  8. WFU03

    WFU03 Member

    Sep 8, 2004
    Singapore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean Bundesliga Amerika?
    :)
     
  9. McOwen

    McOwen Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    Retirement Community
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I'm glad someone still speaks Spanish at United games... Well other then Chico and Oscar :D
     
  10. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    Interesting (as always) read from Steven.


    Glad to hear Christian is enjoying himself.
     
  11. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Great article.
     
  12. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    I'd like to hear more about the "complicated loan arrangement"
     
  13. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No kidding. If his contract had expired, as the article says, why the loan arrangement?

    If we were only willing to take him (guaranteed) through November, maybe he thought it was better to sign a one-year deal with a team in Argentina and be loaned here for half of it? I can't guess why else.
     
  14. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Yep, another good one from Goff. Maybe the league should raid Argentina. It's a good league, and though they probably pay better, as Gomez pointed out, our paychecks always arrive on time (and in a real currency). With the troubles the Argies periodically have, that's sometimes more than you can say in that country. ;)
     
  15. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    No Bosman (or Curt Flood) in Argentina.

    Mebbe they still have a reserve clause.

    Sachin
     
  16. MightyMouse

    MightyMouse BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 19, 2003
    Island paradise east of the mainland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is sad but true, there are sooooooo many Argentinians that have immigrated to Puerto Rico because they can live in an American territory and speak Spanish at the same time. I don't mind having them around, fun people, some a bit crazier than others. The only thing I do not like is if they come to a new country looking for a new life and start to criticise their everything because its not the way it is back home in Argentina.
     
  17. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How could that stop him from signing a contract to work in another country if he's not under contract to work there? I could see why that'd stop him from moving to another team within the country.
     
  18. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    They can do that in DC, too!
     
  19. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    I wonder if his complicated contract arrangement means we don't need to protect him in the expansion draft? That would be a plus.
     
  20. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    We didn't use an allocation to get him. If we used a discovery, that limits how much money he can make. But, my understanding is, if he's a "loan" than we can circumvent some of the player acquisition limits as well as salary limits. Plus, given our cap situation, this could be an encentive to get him to sign with us. Here's how:
    --we agree to sign him for the rest of the year with an option to buy.
    --but we can only offer him so much this year b/c of cap limits.
    --however if another team in Argentina "signs" him and then agrees to loan him to us and sell him to us if we pick him up, than the team in Argentina gets some transfer money and Gomez gets a percentage of the transfer fee (a common practice) which compensates for him signing for a low salary this season.
    --and the club in Argentina probably signed him for only a limited period. So if we don't purchase Gomez than they can choose not to pick up his contract which means they're out nothing, just speculating on a possible fee for signing him for us.

    I don't know that is how it happened. But the pieces fit the explanation of the puzzle.
     
  21. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    If so, brilliant caponomics from Chief KevinPayne.
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA has rules about how long contracts can be, given the age of the player. I'm pretty certain Bosman is universal now.
     
  23. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York

    Nah, man, Mr. Gomez is one of the few Argentinians to be succesful in MLS.
     
  24. rugman

    rugman Member

    Oct 13, 2003
    Annapolis
    There is something wrong with this statement from the article:

    "This summer, however, when Gomez's contract with the Argentine club Arsenal de Sarandi expired, United purchased him in a complicated loan deal."

    If his contract with the club expired, who did United get him on loan from? I didn't think the Argentines sign players for the league like we do. And if you purchase a players contract, how is it a loan? You can set up a loan for a contracted player but you can not purchase a players contract and have it be a loan. A little help here please.

    Of course, whatever the case may be I am sure the management will use it to their best advantage for the future.
     
  25. jkl;

    jkl; New Member

    Oct 15, 2003
    I don't know anything about Argentina's league, when they play or anything, so don't be too harsh with your judgment when I say this.

    Perhaps his Argentine contract actually expires on 12/31, the way an MLS player's contract does, but when the season there ended they figured, why not cash in on him now while they could, since he would leave anyway?
     

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