I was going to touch on Careca but Velvet has already beat me to it lol Barring Careca it isn’t easy or maybe impossible to find many truly elite strikers who joined Serie A around the time Van Basten did and played a similar amount of games For a shorter period there is Gabriel Batistuta who joined Serie A in 1991/92 and was relegated at the end of 1992/93 In those two seasons he scored 29 goals 0 penalties 5136 minutes 0.50 non penalty goals per 90 Gabriel Batistuta - Detailed stats | Transfermarkt Gabriel Batistuta - Penalty goals | Transfermarkt Like I said Fiorentina(the team he played for) was relegated from Serie A at the end of 1992/93 Marco Van Basten in Serie A 1991/92 and 1992/93 scored 38 goals 11 penalties 3921 minutes played 0.62 non penalty goals per 90 Marco van Basten - Detailed stats | Transfermarkt Marco van Basten - Penalty goals | Transfermarkt Milan won the league in 1991/92 and 1992/93 so it’s definitely not a like for like comparison(between him and Batistuta) What can be added here is that Marco Van Basten scored 16 non penalty goals in Serie A 1991/92 for a Milan side which was far and away the best team in Italy during that season. 1991/92 was also his most prolific goalscoring season in Serie A A guy called Francesco Baiano playing for 9th place Foggia scored 13 non penalty goals in that same season Francesco Baiano - Detailed stats | Transfermarkt Francesco Baiano - Penalty goals | Transfermarkt I have my own unique opinions here but I believe that Serie A in the entire 1980s decade never had a single CF with real continental pedigree outside of Marco Van Basten,Jurgen Klinsmann(who really wasn’t an outstanding league performer barring few seasons in his career) and possibly Careca Ian Rush passed through the league but it cannot really be said that he played in it. Yes it is true that he only scored 7 goals in Serie A 1987/88 but he also only scored 7 goals in the 1988/89 First division It was a bad period of his career pure and simple. Paulo Rossi had an outstanding World Cup in 1982 but he also only scored 132 goals in his entire club career Roberto Pruzzo,Vialli,Aldo Serena and Virdis were in my view the 1980s equivalents of Romelu Lukaku,Aubameyang and Jamie Vardy And before anyone scoffs at the idea that they were then perhaps they should compare their respective records in the league and at international level The real gunslingers joined Serie A in the 1990s First Gabriel Batistuta then Ronaldo nazario and then Andriy Shevchenko Van Basten in Serie A did not compete against these level strikers and when he did it was never on a remotely equal footing.
Maybe Rummenigge? The best striker of 80s imo were Hugo Sanchez. It would be interesting to see how many goals he would have scored in 80s Serie A
Pruzzo a s still one the greatest idols of the AS Roma supporters. Totti scored much more but Pruzzo is still The Bomber (for those who are at least 50 and could celebrate the scudetto of 82-83). A very effective player in his days but I agree one kind of player that did not age well (meaning that if you go see his footages, you'll likely find him quite unimpressive). In terms of talent, technical skills -not raw scoring- I would say that Altobelli and Giordano have been the finest italian strikers of the 80s. Giordano and Paolo Rossi would run neck to neck for topscorer title at the very end of 70s decade.
Diego Maradona 1984/85 - 9 goals in 30 full 90s (0.30) 1985/86 - 6 goals in 29 full 90s (0.20) 1986/87 - 4 goals in 26 full 90s (0.15) 1987/88 - 10 goals in 27 full 90s (0.37) 1988/89 - 5 goals in 22 full 90s (0.22) 1989/90 - 7 goals in 25 full 90s (0.28) 1990/91 - 0 goals in 17 full 90s (0.00) (100% of his goals were penalties this season!) Total - 41 goals in 159 full 90s (0.25) Carlito has already posted for Batistuta unless you meant his whole serie A career
Karl Heinz Rummenigge was a severely crippled and hampered player for a lot of his time in Serie A. He was also carrying injuries in World Cup 1982 and World Cup 1986 Saying he'll compete 'even if I have to play... - UPI Archives Soccer series: Injured captains;NEWLN:World Cup Soccer: Being Captain Can Be Hazardous To Health - UPI Archives And was Karl Heinz Rummenigge really a generational goalscorer? He played for a time with Gerd Müller and his numbers(Prime or not) do not compare to Gerd Müller at all I don’t dispute that he was a better player outside of goals than Müller(with more athletic capabilities and possibly vision) but as a goalscorer he can’t sit at the same table as Muller nor does he even qualify to be the waiter. As far as Hugo Sanchez is concerned perhaps he would’ve provided a better challenge to Marco Van Basten in Serie A. He was a five time Pichici winner but who can be certain Hugo Sanchez in the EC 17 goals 2490 minutes 0.61 goals per 90 Marco Van Basten in the EC/CL 19 goals 2523 minutes 0.67 goals per 90 This 19 goal tally is inflated by his 4 goal haul in the inaugural CL vs IFK Goteborg IFK Goteborg finished 5th place in the Swedish division 1992 Allsvenskan - Wikipedia And his 4 goal haul in the 1988/89 EC vs Levski Sofia They finished second place in the Bulgarian division 1988–89 A Group - Wikipedia That’s 42.1% of all his EC goals(8 out of 19) scored in 2 matches. Hugo Sanchez in the WC 1 goal Marco Van basten in the WC 0 goals
........ .. yes .. perfectly .... firstly on Diego ...and on Football .... Diego, Gullit, and Platini were very very lucky. Zico had numerous serious injury problems. I don't know. I have a strong intuition that Zico, without injuries, Diego, Platini Michel , and Ruud Gullit wouldn't be on the same shelf or sentence with Zico . Zico ... possibly on the same heavenly altar with Pelé and Messi . And I'm saying this without having anything against Gullit, Platini, or Diego. Just my deepest intuition.
Surely Hugo Sanchez would have. His finishing was way more refined. Also let us not forget Platini achieved around 0.4 gpg in his five serie A years. About 0.5 excluding last one.
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You know Zico is my all time favorite, your words sound tuneful to my ears, but... Do you think Zico would have been so very effective in dutch-powered AC Milan era too? I do think even great Maradona looked a bit surpassed kind of player when faced Gullit in title-deciding matches of 88. I have maintained this opinion in many previous messages here. Football had changed, and this meant anticipated retirement to several old heroes that had got unfit to the new way of playing the game. Would have superbe technique alone kept Zico at the top in your opinion?
yes for sure ! .. Zico was dedicated, correct, responsible and very very professional. Andy-Moller and Roberto Baggio destroyed with AC Milan 1992-1993........ Zico's frequent injuries... robbed him... of his sprint speed , pace maximum potential .. and longer explosion
I only know about Van Halen from one song ( Beat It) and his solo is my favorite part of one of my favorite songs ever. That 30 second solo starting at 2:45 took a hit song to something immortal
This just puts into perspective how far medicine and physical treatment have come, and also how impressive Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi have been, to not only continue in their 30s/early 40s, but to still have the fire to be competitive and play at the top level (playing in 2026, they will be 39 and 41, respectively; regardless of how they perform, it will be a historical feat).
yes it is pretty greatest yes ,,...the guitar special moment at all .. ............... Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.. Michael Jackson's Moonwalker - Full Game - Part 1/3 I played alot this video-game ...!
Games with the National Team vs teams that surpass 1900 Elo points + all games in the World Cup knockout stage + finals (like the Finalissima or Copa América/Euro finals) Mbappé added GC: 62.90% G/A: 1.065 p90 Not a minor fact, it’s interesting how in the matches against higher-level opponents the number of goals decreases so much, Messi’s Argentina, Maradona’s Argentina, and Cristiano’s Portugal barely 1 goal per game on average.
pretty Cool .... this information ...Carlito 86 !.. great find yours !. .... .. It seems real and true to me...yes Platini liked to score a lot of goals and be decisive...always once...] I saw Michel Platini... talking about the slight Genius ...Michael Laudrup... Platini says: Laudrup is technically wonderful... But he lacks...with this inner taste or inner enjoy or inner passion or inner desire to be highly decisive always in Big Matches and concerned with the numbers in general . really...fighting to be the official penalty and free-kick taker on the own Team ,.... .... .. yes Platini in the last season .. ! became one passer of the Team ... he lost alot the physical strength, sprint speed, acceleration, agility and necessary stamina to Go Box to Box and "Gets into opposition area" is a player trait indicating a player's strong tendency to actively seek out and occupy dangerous positions within the opponent's penalty box when their team is attacking. This trait encourages a player to make themselves a threat close to goal, aiming to receive the ball in scoring positions, and is a more extreme version of "Gets Forward Whenever Possible". ... .. It has always been a crucial trait for Michel Platini to perform and surprise in whole matches. Stepping into the opponent's box as a surprise element coming from the midfield zone .
...... .. @seraqueeusourealmenteobode31 há 2 meses I understood yes ..what you are saying for us here tactically and physically : The people who are making fun of you and humiliating you completely, but tell them to watch the matches against Ajax in the 1995-1996 season Uefa Champions League at the Santiago Bernabeu, Edgar Davids putting Fernando Redondo in his own pocket. Fernando Redondo was really good at disarming when he managed to get the closest contact to the opponent, taking away the speed of the play with Body Balance and Physical strength , Man-marking players with the Style Plays with Back to Goal trait ..Redondo was pretty good on this to tackle slower players or taking it off the him total speed by situations of the own game . But when he made the wrong tackle or interception, he really didn't have much speed, much agility, much mobility, much explosion to make defensive covers backwards like Ruud Gullit or Pelé or Di Stefano could be making it easily . He was very very slow and not very agile to cover the entire field. ! another criticism about him Paulo Roberto Falcão said that he got irritated watching him playing because he didn't verticalize the plays both to pass and to try to score goals Why Real Madrid Sacrificed Their Best Player for the Galácticos Dream I have spoken ...this nice thing 2 months ago .. more or less it ! so you can see that I'm not making characters this is my view on football Carlito 86 !
He would've got 7+ ratings in the league then.not the 4th highest rated of his own side.although i should admit i never take these ratings as commandments.
well, see the whole Matches like me ..and i did it already .. so many many times .. but see for yourself ... the whole matches ... "!
....... ... EDMUNDO e EVAIR jogaram 3 BRASILEIROS juntos, GANHARAM OS 3 Evair played extremely very very well in BRazil years ...Guarani, Palmeiras , Vasco ..Coritiba ...Portuguesa ... Recordes Jogador brasileiro que mais marcou gols no ano de 1994 (53 gols) Jogador estrangeiro com mais gols na história do Yokohama Flügels (39 gols) Evair was champion ....1993, 1994 and 1997 .... runners up ....1986 and 1987 ..,...with GUarani ....against São Paulo ...and Sport .. Brasileirão Evair Ranking's 80's players .. World Ranking List 80's 1. Zico O Rei Arthur 2. Marco van Basten 3. Diego Maradona 4. Antonio Careca 5. Ruud Gullit ...or Paulo Roberto Falcão ..But yet could be others as well ! Evair said on interviews that he imitated Marco van Basten's playing style Elegance, pure Art, and Playmaking Style Marco unico .. But it's true, Van Basten always played very very well against Atalanta. Home games Away games he imitated also Zico and Antonio Careca
EDMUNDO e EVAIR jogaram 3 BRASILEIROS juntos, GANHARAM OS 3 - YouTube EDMUNDO e EVAIR jogaram 3 BRASILEIROS juntos, GANHARAM OS 3 - YouTube Go to directly 9 : 14 minutes at video there ... Edmundo's Goal ... like Diego Maradona and the hand Of God in 1986 World Cup . ! Nice crossing by Evair El Matador !
Verona - Milan (Serie A 1988-1989) Gullit, Caniggia, Van Basten, Rijkaard, Berthold, Baresi, Maldini Go to directly 30 : 11 minutes at video ..there ......in the first half of the Match ...yet ... Gullit receives a standing ovation for supporters ... on the stadium .... !there away-game ..