" yes the last defensive cover to the team " save " and then followed by some kind of defensive action " ! literally talking to you
Go to directly 7 : 03 minutes at video there .. ! a danish defender doing what you are talking about it at the moment . "! Netherlands - Denmark Semi Finals Euro 1992 | Full highlight - 1080p HD | Ruud Gullit - YouTube
Players such as Pele,messi or maradona are genuinely irreplaceable at their peaks atleast.zola played very well for one season( 1991/92. and helped Napoli finish 4th in the.league.but next season it was not repeated.napoli was poor in maradona's final season there with maradona fitness declining quite fast and he played only 18 matches.so evidently napoli's achievements with diego were not repeated.
.... .. JOGO HISTÓRICO: Brasil 1 x 1 Holanda - Pênaltis 4 x 2 - Copa de 98 Davids .. against ..Ronaldo Nazario de Lima .. Go to directly 1 : 41 minutes at video ..there .;; great Davids ... last defensive cover ..." save " ..... and then tackles won % .. and duels won on the ground .. "! etc...
........... ... ... 1993-1994 Parma A 33 18 CI 7 3 CdC 9 1 SU 2 0 51 22 1994-1995 A 32 19 CI 7 4 CU 12 5 - - - 51 28 1995-1996 A 29 10 CI 1 0 CdC 5 2 SI 1 0 36 12 Zola played too much Football at Parma years also ... and ..Chelsea ...as well ...later !
.... .. There were wonderful soccer Football teams that didn't have Pelé Messi and Maradona. on the Senior Squad As a soccer Head-coach, we have an obligation to create greater soccer teams regardless of the unavailable players. the life continues always . !
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Just for the record Maradona did not help Napoli reach first place positions in Serie A He helped them score a maximum of 57 goals in a single Serie A season In some seasons scoring 57 goals was enough for Napoli to win the Serie A title(1989/90) and in other seasons it was not(1988/89) What Zola did (if he did as I haven’t even looked into his 1991/92 season properly) was just as impressive as anything as Maradona did with Napoli Napoli 1991/92 scored 56 Serie A goals without Maradona at all And that was playing in the same league as a peak AC Milan who never had the CL to concentrate on(they did not qualify)
... Gianfranco Zola, Magic Box [Best Goals] Is interesting on this video ... Zola using low gravity sense to do the offensive movements, shorter acceleration and great anticipations all the time on the defenders there ,,at this video .. like Gerd Muller ..from Germany !
Then lets follow that logic: Finosh can certainly be clutch because it directly changes scoreline if it goes in. Equivalent on the other end is gk save that directly prevents team from conceding. Without save, the ball surely goes in. Then you say last-man tackle can alsp be clutch, or interception, but these actions, although valuable, do not directly decide scoreline, because, if a great interception, that prevents 1 on 1 for opposition, is not made, opposition still needs to score the 1 on 1. They can still miss. So the opposite is true as well, creating a big chance for your teammate, a 1v1, canbe clutch even if teammate misses a chance. Any great play of susbtantial value is clutch if it happens in moments of pressure and high stakes. It is not limited to finishing or defensive actions.
And Zola did it with Silenzi an aging Careca by his side. Maradona had Carnevale and a fit Careca. What I find funny about the Maradona's hardcore fans is that they start with super bold claims about Diego being the undisputed GOAT no other player can be really compared to with such a crystal clear evidence that even scarcely competent people ("as everyone knows!") can't fail to recognize his impact on the game has been unparalleled by a huge margin. But then actual numbers almost NEVER fit this narrative, and thus you have that the elephant in the room of the humongous, inescapable evidence turns into the pack of little mice of the very specious arguments and the utterly arbitrary assumptions.
You are nearly correct but there is a deeper sense of logic.playing against maradona,many teams in serie a deployed double (or sometimes triple) covering zonally,and there were lots of Tactical fouling.but in order to do this they could concentrate less on their own offensive game putting less pressure on the Napoli defense and midfield .thus Napoli had to (indirectly but invariably) concede a few less goals resulting in a bit of profit in points and goal difference. Perhaps this is one reason why Napoli didn't finish 1st or 2nd instead of 4th despite zola doing very well.
Well in comparison with a great like R9, careerwise maradona is ahead by 10-7 or at a minimum 9-7 in having world class seasons.and R9 is a top 10-12 player of all time for most people.
Where is the evidence for this ? That opposition teams were routinely engaging in more ‘tactical fouling’ vs Napoli in 1988/89 and 1989/90 than they were in Serie A 1991/92 Let alone that they were doing it “because” of Maradona’s presence Napoli had two shocking defeats in Serie A 1991/92. That was the 5-0 loss to AC Milan and to a lesser extent the 3-1 loss to juventus Both Milan and juventus finished ahead of Napoli in the table If you remove those 8 goals Napoli conceded 32 goals in Serie A 1991/92 without Maradona Napoli conceded 31 goals in Serie A 1989/90 with Maradona In 1989/90 Maradona’s Napoli did not play against a juventus starring Roberto Baggio. They in fact played against a lowly Fiorentina side with Roberto Baggio and he destroyed them And crucially it was Roberto Baggio himself who scored 2 goals+1 assist for juventus in the 3-1 win against Napoli in 1991/92 In 1989/90 Milan had to contend with the league and champions league without Gullit who was injured for basically the entire league campaign ———————- ———————- In 1991/92 Milan had no CL to play The newly available Ruud Gullit (along with Marco Van Basten) were very arguably the main architects of the 5-0 thrashing of Napoli. Maradona would do nothing here had he been available Just like he did nothing when Milan thrashed Napoli with Maradona in 1990/91 Once the big outliers (Juventus + Milan defeats) are accounted for, the defensive and offensive records are practically identical. Napoli 1991/92 had just as impressive league results without Maradona as they ever did with him
Yeah, teammates at Barça can provide more chances but Messi's ability to convert them is what G/A captures. And the same with Messi's ability to create high quality chances that his teammates finishes. If players' G/A were solely team dependant, then players with similar number of chances would score the same number of goals. But it's the quality of those finishes who determines whether this player will score more or less goals. Messi himself creates many chances via dribbling, key passes and off the ball movement, independent of teammates. Of course, at Eibar his G/A would drop due to fewer team generated opportunities, but his individual would still shine (solo goals, assists, etc...) as seen in scenarios like Argentina in which he had less support relative to Barça yet he maintain a high output. On the other hand GC% would rise significantly at Eibar precisely because teammates contribute less without his involvement proving that GC% measures teammates performances, not the player. On the contrary, G/A measure player's performance since it counts the player's goals and assists and isn't "totally relative" to teammates. Messi wouldn't mantain the same G/A in weaker teams but his high G/A show his ability to maximize available chances
Just to clarify and add onto this Ruud gullit was not present when Milan thrashed Napoli 5-0 in Serie A 1991/92 So when I said that he was available that was a mistake The trend of Napoli being trashed by Milan began in 1990/91 when Maradona was present In 1990/91 it was 4-1 In 1991/92 it was 5-0 In 1992/93 it was 5-1 (a poker by Van Basten) The ex Napoli chairman Corrado Ferlaino claimed that he paid off referees to sabotage Milan in 1989/90 —————————- MARADONA - Dopage, corruption, drogue: les confessions de Ferlaino - La DH/Les Sports+ —————————- Van basten also claimed that referees were bought by Napoli in 1989/90 AC Milan: Marco van Basten accuses Serie A of making sure Napoli won 1989-90 title ——————————— So any favourable result Napoli experienced against Milan in 1989/90 is highly questionable to say the least There are no indications that Maradona could’ve prevented Napoli from being thrashed by Milan. What we know is that he was there when they thrashed Napoli in 1990/91 And that Milan did the exact same thing in the two following seasons when maradona was not there.
1987/88 Milan - Napoli 4-1 (Careca, Virdis, Colombo, Gullit) Napoli - Milan 2-3 (Virdis, Maradona, Virdis, Van Basten, Careca) Milan defeats Napoli at s.Paolo Stadium (now Maradona) in Naples and completes the overtaking in classification to win the title. In this two matches in my opinion Gullit established himself as the then best player in the world largely outcompeting Maradona, with an authority that personally I had very rarely seen before.
G/A measure's a player's direct contribution of goals and assists driven by his ability to create or convert. GC% reflects the proportion of the goals a player is involved in, which depends on his teammates independent scoring. Mbappé's high G/A reflects his finishing skills but his GC% reflects the lower independent goal output proving GC% is about teammates, not the player. Players like Mbappé and Messi consistently maximize chances through superior finishing, positioning, playmaking, etc... Regardless of team quality. Barcelona can produce more chances and of more quality than Eibar but Messi's ability to convert a high percentage of those chances reflects individual brilliance, not just external factors. The fact that G/A doubles at Barça while GC% barely changes shows G/A captures a player's ability to exploit opportunities while GC% hinges on teammates' performance, not situational complexity so GC% sensitivity to teammates output doesn't diminishes G/A individual focus.
Exactly, you're making my argument for me. The fact that Careca and Carnevalle had few chances of scoring goals independent of Maradona is exactly what boosted Maradona's GC%.
I didn't and I explained. Messi's higher G/A at Barça is due to his ability to maximize the chances Barça creates via superior finishing, positioning, playmaking, etc... It's not like any player at his place would score/assist as many as him. GC% on the other hand is entirely about teammates ability to score independent goals
It depends on the quality of the pass and the quality of the finish. Messi can receive a pass 50 meters from the goal and still manage to dribble and score. This will count as an assist for Messi's teammate. While Messi can make a pin point cross from 50 meters from the goals to his teammate open without the goalkeeper with a lot of space and time to react. Would you call it a 50/50 equation? Messi doesn't receive chances of the same quality as he creates. And he actually creates better chances than his teammates.
AC Milan did not win in 1987-88 because of those matches,but because the scudetto was rigged.maradona was not played the last two matches and Napoli lost both,losing the trophy along the way.maradona deserved to have 3 serie a titles otherwise.Gullit was the best player in those matches although I have not heard before 2 high profile league matches can make one world's best.