Goal contribution of the best players

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Trachta10, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. Sexy Beast

    Sexy Beast Member+

    Dinamo Zagreb
    Croatia
    Aug 11, 2016
    Zagreb
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    The best for me is the very core categorization into technical, mental and physical attributes. It makes so much sense. They strike balance well, but dont agree with all ratings all the time.

    Rakitic for example was similarily rated as kdb and kroos, which is a bit off..
     
  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    I remember i would always finish 3rd in the league behind Barca and Real (for many seasons in a row) and always eventually get trashed by some big team in ucl. I would dominate weak and okay teams, but always lose to big teams..




    To win these teams like Barça and Real Madrid teams ...


    tactically,

    you have to know
    the concepts of professional Headcoaches really from Fact .

    Understand and really very very understand...
    the general concepts
    philosophies





    Attacking Set Pieces
    and Defending Set Pieces

    the positioning
    as

    to defend or as to Attack correctly
    near post
    six yards area zone
    far post

    as an Unit ...


    close the channels

    do mixed marking always

    one part Zonal marking
    one part ..Tighter marking
    one part ...Man-marking ..

    etc.etc.etc..

    catimbando or wasting times ala older argentinian teams

    right time to commit tactical fouls

    to interrupt or kill counter-attacks situations as soon as possible

    from opponents ...



    to win Barça and Real Madrid ..

    You must have a professional level of tactical knowledge

    otherwise... you will always lose against Barça , Real Madrid...Munich ..and big six Teams from England ..etc...

     
  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    in my own case

    I won all the whole matches on the whole two seasons..... unbeatable 150 games in a row there . !
     
  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

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    Hall Of Fame !
     
  5. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Cumulative Per90 Stats in the Champions League

    Messi vs Cristiano

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    So each value is the per90 number the player had up to that point in that season.
     
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  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024












    In the case of Lionel Messi,


    when you mention Tackles won % per 90 minutes played,

    you are not mentioning interceptions Of Lionel Messi at Uefa Champions League ????????


    In the case of Messi, at the beginning of this game against Brazil... in the South American qualifiers,


    Messi made 3 interceptions with high pressure so quickly ...... at the beginning of the match.
    + more +++ 1 tackles won %...... 20 minutes played in the first half from this Match ..

    Brazil 0 vs 0 Argentina ...in 2008 ..


    in 2008 ... !


    really confirms
    o Stats...

    in the table there yours !

    and

    C. Ronaldo even

    when he played

    as a right-winger
    play-maker

    or as a Left-winger
    play-maker




    4-4-2


    Sir Alex Ferguson HeadCoach and Manager . "
     
  7. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Cumulative Per90 Stats in the Champions League

    Messi vs Cristiano

    Until 2008/09
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    Until 2011/12
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    Until 2014/15
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    All games
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  8. Guts_1069

    Guts_1069 Member

    Cruzeiro
    Brazil
    Nov 6, 2023
     
  9. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    #4159 Al Gabiru, May 16, 2025
    Last edited: May 16, 2025
    Raphinha and Dembele have seen their stats explode this year. Part of this is due to the favourable system that surrounds them, but it's also due to their age (28, they're entering their physical prime). A player has one or two years where his performance is far from his standard.

    Dembele's heatmap on sofascore is almost the same in 2023/24 and 2024/25. A bit more spread out on the pitch, but still primarily a winger.

    dembel1.png dembe2.png
     
  10. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    #4160 Al Gabiru, May 23, 2025
    Last edited: May 23, 2025
    highest g+a in a single world cup edition

    Sandor Kocsis 1954 5 matches, 11 goals, 2 assist 2.6 G+A
    Leonidas 1938 4 matches, 7 goals, 3 assist 2.5 G+A
    Ademir 1950 6 matches 9 goals, 6 assist 2.5 G+A
    Guillermo Stábile 1930, 4 matches, 8 goals, 1 assist, 2.25 G+A
    Gerd Muller 1970 6 matches, 10 goals, 3 assist 2.1 G+A
    Just Fontaine 1958 6 matches, 13 goals, 0 assist, 2.1 G+A
    Pelé 1958 4 matches, 6 goals, 2 assist 2 G+A
    Carlos Peucelle 1930 4 matches, 3 goals, 5 assist, 2 G+A

    There may be one or two more players from the 1930, 1934 and 1938 World Cups

    Stábile, Sandor Kocsis and Pelé the only ones with G+A in a World Cup final. Ademir was the only one who played in a World Cup at home.

    Pelé the only champion.
     
  11. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Just to quickly add a note mate to say Just Fontaine does have 1958 World Cup assists, with a link to @wm442433 's website page:
    Football Yesterday & Today: Just Fontaine - Statistiques détaillées en Equipe de France
     
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  12. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Even according to the IFFHS website lol
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    But Gabiru has his own ‘facts’ and that is a common theme here.
     
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  13. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    #4163 Al Gabiru, May 23, 2025
    Last edited: May 23, 2025
    Yeah, i miss fontaine assists. Some of them I looked up myself in the newspapers of the time when I was editing them on the wiki (stabile, peucelle I wrote the articles on the Argentina/Brazil in World Cup on the wiki in Spanish and Portuguese). So it's a bit of my own research with indicated sources (newspapers, data) as in Fredenreich's thread and others. And a bit from sites like transfermarket. The transfer market didn't have any.
     
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  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    i saw ... all 9 assists...Of Kopa...

    is confirmed really . mate "!
     
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


     
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024








    I put David Villa ... destroying with Ronaldinho...in 2003-2004 Copa del Rey de la Spain .. at video ...


    because of you ..like David Villa .. "!


    but ;;.. David Villa in the second leg ... He loses one super big chances created there . "!



    was the second goal almost made mate !
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    as Always Adriano Gabiru

    you're wrong all the time ...
     
  18. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    What a shame at all !
     

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