Dennis Bergkamp .. i ranked him as a Good Player at average ....in All the possible Attributes and Metrics ... as a Very Good PLayer at his peak and Highlights at you Tube ... for example .. best moments .. i think so the same thing about : Ricardo Kaká Ronaldinho Gaucho Roberto Baggio Francesco Totti ... Roberto Rivellino Brian Laudrup David Beckham Clarence Seedorf .. Steven Gerrard Frank Lampard Scholes Riquelme Veron etc ,.. etc .. etc ..
What is saving Michael Laudrup ... to have the same verdict equals the others ...mentioned ... is the surprise Tackle against ...Sampdoria ...in 1986 ...Platini's Goal ...
...I realize one thing a few days ago .. ... that Puck Van Heel Alerted me alot ... and always ...about it .. .... Everyone here without exception generally belittles or humiliates.. Eredivisie as a championship .. as competition ;;Always or the Leagues Of Di Stefano ..Puskas ..Gento ... Kopa ...Pelé ...in Brazil .. But I realized that.thing All Leagues in general 2000's ahead are extremely unbalanced...easier for example Barclays Premier League.. Serie A Calcio.. La Liga then doesn't even talk about it... in size of unbalanced...easy i mean La liga 2000's and 10's is the most unbalanced even Eredivisie 80's it was more ++ balanced than these Competitions ...
Yes, true. The goal contribution method can help with that a bit, because it calculates things based on percentages of team goals, so although it can't be a 'perfect' method to decide everything I think Trachta's idea has merit in that respect, to evaluate the end product.
..... yes thank you PuckVanHeel ..my friend hahahaha to open my eyes ..about it ....as soon as possible ... yes ... cest vrai ...mon ami.... Yes .. Pre-Assists Method ..helps alot... midfielders ..and defenders ... in Statistics .. like Michael Laudrup .. 43 Pre-Assists .. is a good number.. for sure ... for Barcelona ..years .. Attacking-Midfielder ...Player ...
.. The well is much deeper than I imagined before hahahaha on my mind .. in Relation ..to the World Football ...
I'll add a couple of relevant Van Basten videos @Sexy Beast although maybe you saw one or both of them already: Marco van Basten ● Goals and Skills ● Netherlands 3:1 England ● Euro 1988 - video Dailymotion Maybe Nottingham Forest bias lol, but I do think both the number 9 (Peter Withe, centre forward) and number 10 (Tony Woodcock, inside forward/support striker) in their league championship winning season are reasonable calls for good link-up players too, that came to my mind: https://youtu.be/eIelHxyWgoA?feature=shared (number 9 there is not Withe any more but Birtles - after 77/78 Forest sold Withe and used speedier players like Birtles and Trevor Francis who was signed for a million pounds, while Withe ended up at Aston Villa as part of their own 1st Division/European Cup winning team alongside Gary Shaw who recently died, around the same time as Toto Schillaci did).
Baggio 1993 Matches: 57 Goals: 39 (27 clutch) Assists: 14 (9 clutch) Non-Opta: 9 (7 clutch) Team Contribution 62/105: 59.05% Clutch Contribution 43/70: 61.43% Baggio for Italy NT Matches: 56 Goals: 27 (18 clutch) Assists: 13 (6 clutch) Non-Opta: 3 (3 clutch) Team Contribution 43/61: 70.49% Clutch Contribution 27/37: 72.97%
There is usually a hierarchy between competitions, with the World Cup at the top, followed by the UCL, then the strongest leagues in Europe (Spain, Germany, England, Italy) and continental tournaments (euro, copa america). This is how the football media (the guardian, el grafico, four four two, placar, espn etc) make their rankings. In Pelé's case, there's an asterisk, because before the Bosman Law, La Libertadores was as strong as the UCL and the national leagues in Brazil and Argentina were on a par with the big European leagues. South Americans take this into account, Europeans generally don't. This happens everywhere. In basketball, the NBA is more highly regarded than other leagues. In tennis, the grand slams, etc. I find it hard to find anyone who compares Michael Jordan or Lebron James to a player who shone in the Dutch basketball league. Or someone who uses the ABA League MVP as an argument to praise Jokic. They're considered minor leagues. But you are free to disagree.
Lionel Messi 2024 so far Matches: 30 Goals: 25 Assists: 16 Non-Opta: 1 Pre-Assists: 9 Team Contribution 51/65: 78.46% Clutch Contribution 27/36: 75.00%
Marcelinho Carioca ... 878 Matches ... 307 Goals ... 289 Assists ,..... 0, 36 % ...Goals per 90 minutes .... 0, 34 % .....Assists ;;;;... per 90 minutes .. He was seen as New Zico ... in the Brazilian Football .... He was truly phenomenal in assists and Pre Assistance...s 3x times the best provider Assister from Brasileirão Championship ...;;; 90's 2000's 12 ... Assists .. 13 .... Assists ... 17 ... Assists ...
Marcelinho Carioca ... he is a super-Fan .. Diego Armando Maradona ... Michel Platini .... and Zico !
Baggio for Juventus Matches: 200 Goals: 116 (10 dfk, 5 ifk, 4 hdrs, 38 pk) Assists: 47 Non-Opta: 17 Team Contribution 180/325: 55.38% Clutch Contribution 101/183: 55.19% Clutch: Goals: 62/116: 53.45% Assists: 28/47: 59.57% Non-Opta Assists: 17 7 Deflected Passes/Shots 3 Own Goal Assist 3 GK Rebounds 2 Post Rebounds 1 Penalty Won 1 Free Kick Won