Goal contribution of the best players

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  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    so Gullit ..Van Basten in Brazil ..

    were consider much better than Laudrup ... in general !


    But i liked of Laudrup also ..



    i see games


    Laudrup ...Raul ...Zamorano ....Redondo ...
     
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  2. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Of course, like I say, using goal contribution % would give a different slant on this too obviously (similar to Trachta's original method, but with pre-assists and some wider assists added in I suppose). Maybe in theory if penalty goals are removed then penalties won could be too - Wiliam put those in for pre-assists I believe. Although it is not quite the same I think, as the player who wins the penalty wins it in open play (even though sometimes the penalty can be clear, other times it can be questionable, and sometimes a penalty can not be given when it should be).

    As a guide the total goals of each club over the season can be looked at:
    Juventus 82/83 - 90 goals
    1982–83 Juventus FC season - Wikipedia
    Juventus 83/84 - 86 goals
    1983–84 Juventus FC season - Wikipedia
    Juventus 84/85 - 90 goals
    1984–85 Juventus FC season - Wikipedia
    Juventus 85/86 - 68 goals
    1985–86 Juventus FC season - Wikipedia
    Juventus 86/87 - 69 goals
    1986–87 Juventus FC season - Wikipedia
    Ac Milan 87/88 - 59 goals (noting that Van Basten missed around half the games, in an injury-troubled season for him)
    1987–88 AC Milan season - Wikipedia
    AC Milan 88/89 - 98 goals
    1988–89 AC Milan season - Wikipedia
    AC Milan 89/90 - 82 goals
    1989–90 AC Milan season - Wikipedia
    AC Milan 90/91 - 62 goals
    1990–91 AC Milan season - Wikipedia
    AC Milan 91/92 - 84 goals
    1991–92 AC Milan season - Wikipedia
    AC Milan 92/93 - 107 goals (noting that Van Basten missed more than half the games, in an injury-interrupted season)
    1992–93 AC Milan season - Wikipedia
    Napoli 84/85 - 47 goals
    1984–85 SSC Napoli season - Wikipedia
    Napoli 85/86 - 40 goals
    1985–86 SSC Napoli season - Wikipedia
    Napoli 86/87 - 74 goals
    1986–87 SSC Napoli season - Wikipedia
    Napoli 87/88 - 75 goals
    1987–88 SSC Napoli season - Wikipedia
    Napoli 88/89 - 99 goals
    1988–89 SSC Napoli season - Wikipedia
    Napoli 89/90 - 69 goals
    1989–90 SSC Napoli season - Wikipedia
    Napoli 90/91 - 58 goals
    1990–91 SSC Napoli season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 03/04 - 89 goals
    2003–04 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 04/05 - 86 goals
    2004–05 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 05/06 - 121 goals
    2005–06 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 06/07 - 127 goals I think
    2006–07 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 07/08 - 104 goals?
    2007–08 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 89/90 - 99 goals
    1989–90 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 90/91 - 111 goals
    1990–91 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 91/92 - 110 goals
    1991–92 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 92/93 - 121 goals
    1992–93 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia
    Barcelona 93/94 - 123 goals
    1993–94 FC Barcelona season - Wikipedia

    I'll have to add Arsenal 95/96 to 05/06 at a later time. Hopefully I didn't miss any goals for any of the above, although it could be worth checking (of course playing time, numbers of games played by each player can change things a bit for contribution %s also).
     
  3. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Arsenal goals tallies in Bergkamp era (all games, not only when he played):
    95/96 - 67 goals
    1995–96 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    96/97 - 77 goals
    1996–97 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    97/98 - 89 goals
    1997–98 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    98/99 - 82 goals
    1998–99 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    99/00 - 112 goals
    1999–2000 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    00/01 - 109 goals
    2000–01 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    01/02 - 119 goals
    2001–02 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    02/03 - 119 goals
    2002–03 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    03/04 - 116 goals
    2003–04 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    04/05 - 117 goals
    2004–05 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
    05/06 - 96 goals
    2005–06 Arsenal F.C. season - Wikipedia
     
  4. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Yeah, Real Madrid 94/95 and 95/96 you saw then....

    And yeah, I know Placar had Van Basten 26th and Gullit 31st, with Laudrup 60th, in their players of the century list (of course some guys or many guys could see them higher up):
    The Best x Players of the Century/All-Time (rsssf.org)
    Van Basten 12th and Gullit 18th in IFFHS World Player voting, with in European voting their places being 10th and 21st, while Laudrup was in 24th-26th, so yeah the Dutch guys had some good votes from South America quite probably in the world voting I think, and Laudrup was more appreciated, or voted anyway, among the Europeans, than among South American/rest of world voters, seemingly:
    IFFHS' Century Elections (rsssf.org)
    (again, only their panel involved, not wider fanbase of course).
     
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  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
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    SERIE A CALCIO 1983/84

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 11 POINTS





    SERIE A CALCIO 1984/85

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 10 POINTS




    SERIE A CALCIO 1985/86

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 16 POINTS



    SERIE A CALCIO 1986/87

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 12 POINTS


    SERIE A CALCIO 1987/88

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS

    SERIE A CALCIO 1988/89

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 24 POINTS


    SERIE A CALCIO 1989/90

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS





    MARADONA ...GULLIT ....PLATINI..VAN BASTEN...FALCÃO...ZICO ...JUNIOR ..CARECA ...RUMMENIGGE...LOTHAR MATTHAUS ...BREHME ...BRIEGEL ..VIALLI ... ERA ETC .ETC,..


    vs



    MESSI ...C.RONALDO ....RONALDINHO ....KAKA ... ERA ETC.ETC ..



    La Liga



    LA LIGA 2003/04

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 23 POINTS




    LA LIGA 2004/05

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 33 POINTS


    LA LIGA 2005/06

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 27 POINTS




    LA LIGA 2006/07

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 22 POINTS



    LA LIGA 2007/08

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 33 POINTS


    LA LIGA 2008/09

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 32 POINTS


    LA LIGA 2009/10

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 45 POINTS


    LA LIGA 2010/11

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 47 POINTS
     

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  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    LA LIGA 1989/90


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 22 POINTS




    LA LIGA 1990/91


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 19 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1991/92


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1992/93


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 18 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1993/94


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 18 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1994/95


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 13 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1995/96


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 25 POINTS




    LA LIGA 1996/97


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 29 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1997/98


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 15 POINTS







    lAUDRUP .... ROMÁRIO ...STOICHKOV....RONALDO NAZARIO ...SEEDORF ..REDONDO ...RAUL ....ROBERTO CARLOS ERA ETC ...
     
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    LA LIGA 1957/58


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1958/59


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 23 POINTS

    LA LIGA 1959/60


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 16 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1960/61


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 22 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1961/62


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 14 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1962/63


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 20 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1963/64


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1964/65


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 16 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1965/66


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS
     
  8. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    LA LIGA 1957/58


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1958/59


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 23 POINTS

    LA LIGA 1959/60


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 16 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1960/61


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 22 POINTS


    LA LIGA 1961/62


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 14 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1962/63


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 20 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1963/64


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1964/65


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 16 POINTS



    LA LIGA 1965/66


    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 17 POINTS





    DI STEFANO ...PUSKAS ...CZIBOR ... GENTO ...KOPA ..... ETC ..
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    I REALIZE RIGHT NOW ... THE TIME MUCH MORE EASIER ...FOR SURE ... WAS AND



    IS THE TIME ..ERA ..AGE OF LIONEL MESSI ...C.RONALDO ....RONALDINHO GAUCHO....C. RONALDO ...RONALDO BIG FAT ;;ETC ..


    LA LIGA ..! 2000'S 2000 AND 10'S


    WEAKER LEAGUES IN GENERAL ...

    LACKS OF BALANCE ..AT ALL !! BETWEEN THE TEAMS ...!
     
  10. BalaMorna

    BalaMorna New Member

    Milan
    Brazil
    Apr 16, 2024
    Although I do think that 80's Italy was the best league in football, using the points disparity is misleading, since a win was worth less points and there were less games, leading to a lesser difference.
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    8th placed 2000's ahead could to do 3 points also exactly as the first place ...was making ...



    the distance don't changes alot .. !
     
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    don't agree with you .... and his ..theory ... !
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    8th placed continues weaker !
    ..
     
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE FROM ENGLAND ( FIRST DIVISION ) : 2002/03

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 31 POINTS



    BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE FROM ENGLAND ( FIRST DIVISION ) : 2003/04

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 37 POINTS



    BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE FROM ENGLAND ( FIRST DIVISION ) : 2004/05

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 43 POINTS


    BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE FROM ENGLAND ( FIRST DIVISION ) : 2005/06

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 35 POINTS



    BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE FROM ENGLAND ( FIRST DIVISION ) : 2006/07

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 34 POINTS



    BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE FROM ENGLAND ( FIRST DIVISION ) : 2007/08

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 30 POINTS




    ..
    BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE FROM ENGLAND ( FIRST DIVISION ) : 2008/09

    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 39 POINTS
     
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    EREDIVISIE 80'S

    1980/81
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 26 POINTS





    1981/82
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 20 POINTS


    1982/83
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 25 POINTS


    1983/84
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 21 POINTS


    1984/85
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 20 POINTS



    1985/86
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 26 POINTS


    1986/87
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 25 POINTS


     
  18. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    SERIE A CALCIO 2008/09 :



    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 27 POINTS






    SERIE A CALCIO 2009/10 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 30 POINTS




    SERIE A CALCIO 2010/11 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 26 POINTS


     
  20. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    SERIE A CALCIO 1997/1998:
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 26 POINTS



    RONALDO NAZARIO TIMES

    DEL PIERO TIMES

    ZIDANE TIMES


    ETC ...
     
  21. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    LA LIGA 2011/12 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 48 POINTS




    LA LIGA 2012/13 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 47 POINTS




    LA LIGA 2013/14 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 41 POINTS



    LA LIGA 2014/15 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 43 POINTS

     
  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    LA LIGA 2015/16 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 43 POINTS
     
  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    LA LIGA 2016/17 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 37 POINTS
     
  24. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    LA LIGA 2017/18 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 38 POINTS
     
  25. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    1949–50 Nemzeti Bajnokság I
    1
    HUNGARIAN LEAGUE 1949/50 :
    DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CHAMPION
    AND
    8TH PLACED WAS 19 POINTS
     

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