Goal contribution of the best players

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Trachta10, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    I agree with you dear mate !
    we have 3 categories totally differents there



    1# Assists ( direct assists and indirect assists )
    2# Pre-assists ( direct pre-assists and indirect pre-assists )
    3# Penalties suffered ( key plays ... sometimes )
     
  2. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Here I am not counting pre-assists since it is impossible to obtain that data from newspapers, they are usually mentioned but not 100% of the time. The Non-Opta assists were taken from the criteria used by the web https://www.messivsronaldo.app/detailed-stats/all-assists/.

    Opta itself calls them "fantasy assists"
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    Maradona has
    202 Direct Passes
    13 Deflected Passes/Shots
    9 Post Rebounds
    8 Own Goal Assists
    8 GK Rebound
    8 Free Kicks Won scored by teammates
    7 Penalties Won scored by teammates

    I don't have data for Ronaldinho
     
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  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    7 Penalties Won scored by teammates

    it is penalties suffered ???


    or indirect assists

    like Diego Maradona against Parma 1990/91 ....Ruud Gullit against Southpton 1995/96 ????
     
  4. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Yes, it's a penalty suffered that was scored by a teammate
     
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  5. Ftblabsolute

    Ftblabsolute Member

    France
    Mar 17, 2024
    Do you have the shots on target number in each World Cup edition too?
     
  6. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Found it, this would be World Cup and Champions League

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  7. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Non-Opta Assists or "Fantasy Assists"

    Pelé: 123
    42 Penalties Won scored by teammates
    28 Free Kicks Won scored by teammates
    17 Deflected Passes/Shots
    16 GK Rebounds
    10 Post Rebounds
    7 Own Goal Assists
    3 Second Shot Assist

    Johan Cruyff
    : 109
    45 Penalties Won scored by teammates
    34 Deflected Passes/Shots
    11 GK Rebounds
    8 Free Kicks Won scored by teammates
    7 Post Rebounds
    3 Own Goal Assists
    1 Second Shot Assist

    Puskás: 67
    29 GK Rebounds
    19 Deflected Passes/Shots
    10 Post Rebounds
    4 Free Kicks Won scored by teammates
    4 Own Goal Assists
    1 Second Shot Assist
     
  8. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Kylian Mbappé: 59 (0.154 p90)

    20 Deflected Passes/Shots
    16 Penalties Won scored by teammates
    9 GK Rebounds
    9 Own Goal Assists
    4 Free Kicks Won scored by teammates
    1 Post Rebound
     
  9. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Team's Goals Contribution% including Non-Opta assists

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  10. spartacus7

    spartacus7 Member

    Jul 8, 2023
    Do you have complete data for R9 and Ronaldinho? It would be cool to see them in these comparative tables since they are popular top 5 picks nowadays.
     
  11. Trachta10

    Trachta10 Member+

    Apr 25, 2016
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    No, but I have a friend who is about to research Ronaldinho's assists including Non-Opta, and he told me that he estimates he has quite a lot.
     
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  12. Praasen

    Praasen Member

    Mohun bagan
    Argentina
    Jan 8, 2023
    Could you please update this table without penalty goals?
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    TransferMarkt already did it ...

    232 assists ( including even penalties suffered by own Ronaldinho Gaucho in career)

    in 806 matches or 813 matches ...completed ...




    300 goals .... or 301 goals .... or 302 goals ....




    245 assists ( including pre-assists aswell )
    in 806 matches or 813 matches ...completed ...
     
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    Ronaldinho Gaucho

    806 matches or 813 matches ...



    194 assists ( direct assists and indirect assists too )
     
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    TransferMarkt already did it ...

    232 assists ( including even penalties suffered by own Ronaldinho Gaucho in career)

    in 806 matches or 813 matches ...completed ...




    300 goals .... or 301 goals .... or 302 goals ....




    245 assists ( including pre-assists aswell )
    in 806 matches or 813 matches ...completed ...
     
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  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    Ronaldinho Gaucho

    806 matches or 813 matches ...



    194 assists ( direct assists and indirect assists too )
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024






    for example .... Neymar Jr .....has more than Ronaldinho Gaucho



    255 assists !
     
  18. spartacus7

    spartacus7 Member

    Jul 8, 2023
    He has, but if we calculate as Trachta usually does, with goal contribution percentage, Ronaldinho might look better.
     
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  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    Ronaldinho Gaucho EndProduct thing he is not great or good at average !





    stronger Point from him

    was


    Key decisive Passes

    or Big chances created per 90 minutes played


    He is Top 50 of the History within for sure



    but EndProduct not for sure




    i saw all the whole matches ... of Ronaldinho Gaucho since Gremio 1998 !
     
  20. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024






    Ronaldo Nazario has 141 assists ( direct assists and indirect assists too )
     
  21. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    For example
    at Football Manager



    indirect assists are Valid . !
     
  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024










    Let's go Michel Le Roi Platini 224 matches for Juventus in 5 years in a row .


    All detail Statistics with goals .... assists ( direct assists and indirect assists ) .... pre-assists ( type 1, type 2 ) penalties suffered by own Michel Platini on these games in 5 years for Juventus ITA .





    the first game ...!
     
  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024








    Michel Platini .... 1 direct assist ... crossing with right foot to Roberto Bettega .
     
  24. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024






    Michel Platini ........ 1 indirect pre-assist !
     
  25. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Best league campaigns on Serie A as per DBS Calcio:
    Liedholm 58/59 7.33
    Liedholm 56/57 7.31
    L. Buffon 59/60 7.30
    Zoff 71/72 7.17
    Riva 69/70 7.14
    L. Buffon 60/61 7.08
    Juliano 70/71 7.06
    Juliano 68/69 7.05
    Liedholm 59/60 7.05
    Botelho 56/57 7.05
    Bugatti 57/58 7.02
    Sala 76/77 6.96
    Krol 80/81 6.93
    Gullit 93/94 6.92
    Filippi 77/78 6.92
    Sala 75/76 6.91
    Maradona 84/85 6.90
     
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