puck says here they take the average of various newspapers,magazines and fan publications Salvatore Bagni wasn’t a native of Naples nor was he a product of their academy There is simply no evidence of bias being a factor here fair enough he represented the Italian NT but so did Gianfranco Zola Giordano Ferrara De Napoli Carnevale Francini Massimo Crippa Luca Fusi But yet it was only Bagni who garnered the superior media ratings Not in a off season but in consecutive seasons maradona was never more famous(ever) than he was in 1985/86 and 1986/87 His legacy was built on this dare I say almost entirely for Bagni to have superior media ratings in those seasons is not something that can just easily be dismissed no matter what publications are used
........................ Honvéd/Ferencváros 6 x 2 Botafogo RJ Brasil Hungary 4 x 5 Belgium Sel. Budapest 7 x 3 Lyon Sel. Budapest 3 x 0 Sporting Honvéd 2 x 2 Tatabányai Hungary 3 x 1 Yugoslavia Honvéd 2 x 2 Voros Lobogó Hungary 2 x 0 Austria Honvéd 4 x 2 Saarbrucken Honvéd 5 x 5 Real Madrid Honved 4 x 3 Barcelona Honved 2 x 1 Milan Honvéd 2 x 3 Roma Honvéd 6 x 3 Palermo Honvéd 3 x 3 Athletic Bilbao Honvéd 2 x 1 Internazionale in Brazil games : Honvéd 4 x 6 Flamengo Honvéd 4 x 2 Botafogo RJ Honvéd 6 x 4 Flamengo Honvéd 2 x 6 Comb. Botafogo RJ/Flamengo Honvéd 3 x 5 Flamengo Honvéd 1 x 1 Flamengo These were the results of Budapest Honved a little before for a Tour in Brazil so Honestly in these friendlies there were a lot of difficult teams to play against at that time.... In my mind sometimes...I think that a team led by David Beckham or Frank Lampard or Rio Ferdinand or Ronaldinho Gaucho or Kaká would lose every match in my opinion .... ... Nowadays this is another big mistake that the Majority of the people always makes when talking about football which in the past was much easier than today.. . Join in this wave of these Debiloids and then this Wave swallows you ugly and without massage.. ( wrong mind of youngsters nowadays) Honestly, there were some highlights from these Budapest Honved matches in Brazil against Flamengo on TV in Brazil... Botafogo, together with Santos FC and Vasco da Gama... were the main base of the Brazilian team from 1958 to 1970... that won 3 World Cups Almost in a row . players like .... Nilton Santos ... Zagallo .... Didi ... Garrincha ... Dida ... Zizinho ......etc .. etc .. Honestly a team led by David Beckham playing in Brazil against these guys would lose 6 x 0 or 10 x 0 in my humble opinion.... mainly for the behaviour of David Beckham against Brazil in 2002 . honestly i think this always .
Interesting to know about the highlights of Honved on Brazilian TV - I saw this video quite a long time ago (Honved & Ferenvaros combined XI it seems actually, vs Botafogo): Honved played games with English clubs too: losing a famous one to Wolves but in bad weather - here are highlights from another one vs West Bromwich Albion: Beckham did have an injury that affected in 2002 him to be fair it should be said maybe though: JOE.ie - Sports injuries explained: The broken metatarsal
even ..... hahahaha !! for sure without injuries David Beckham will keep going losing the matches against ... Flamengo ... Botafogo ... Vasco ... and Santos FC mainly playing in Brazil these matches .... 6 x 0 ... or 10 x 0 .... Beckham hasn't Power Of Fire to beat these brazilian players ... !
yes .... i saw too ... dear mate ..... has two pre-assists by Puskas and one Goal into this game . i saw aswell .
https://www.elofootball.com/index.php?season=1972-1973#country Another elo ranking I found. Confirms again the idea that the eredivisie was overall fluke league before Season - Avg elo of top 10 (rank) - Standard deviation in % (how much is the league unbalanced) 1964/65 - 11th - 4.9% (8th most balanced league) 1965/66 - 10th - 6.6% (18th most balanced league out of 30) 1966/67 - 10th - 7.8% (21st most balanced league) 1967/68 - 10th - 7.6% 1968/69 - 10th - 8.0% 1969/70 - 9th - 9.1% 1970/71 - 7th - 10.1% (Netherlands had by far the most unbalanced league of the best European leagues) 1971/72 - 7th - 10.8% 1972/73 - 7th - 11.1% . 1981/82 - 7th - 8.0% 1982/83 - 8th - 7.0% 1983/84 - 9th - 8.4% Plotting this data in a graph alongside the average elo gives us this: Whenever Eredivisie "gets better" by increasing its elo thanks to Ajax and some other clubs' performances in Europe, their unbalance increases too, why? A logic explanation is that only the top clubs get better, the middle table teams and downwards don't strengthen in that time. Having the top 4 clubs good with an abyssal gulf between them and the others doesn't make the league a top league. Typically, the top 4 leagues in 1967/68 all have lower standard deviation than 5%, because the whole league is strong, not just the top clubs. And as a certain someone said, this is actual statistic made by an actual data scientist. Not the baseless opinion of a casual.
You keep on being inane (and again, further back in time Elo for clubs is very flawed; also today mid-table teams don't play each other). 'World Soccer' was not a baseless opinion - it was literally the first issue I picked from the archive (January 1973). The assesment by 21st Club is not a baseless opinion. It is not hard to imagine how that looks for the 1970s, when pretty much all of the players stayed in the Benelux itself. Again, the 200th-400th best players ranked 8th-10th in 2018, close to Argentina. Now it is 5th or 6th (or 7th at worst). Saying it was the 30th league in 1972 (25th, 35th), your first claim, is ridiculous. There are also fewer UEFA countries and leagues in that time, before the break-up of Europe. Mexico and USA have not made an entry yet. That makes you a dubious and hostile figure. Five different clubs reached UEFA Cup finals or better. There aren't even ten leagues that could say the same. Meanwhile, they reached World Cup finals with about 20 of the best players not going and leaning more than ever on players outside the Big Two or Big Three. In what universe is this below Uruguay and the 25th-35th league? Your stat twisting, while everyone knows ClubElo has flaws today, let alone for further back in time, is indeed baseless. Imagine almost all of these players staying in the country: https://football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/mr/mr55/en/ Ranked 8th for player quality in 2019, the wider pool of players - not outlandish to think this was quite a bit better in the 1970s (surely, Colombia falls away for that time, probably also France).
This elo started for every European league since 1955/56, it has 9 full seasons of international games prior, that's largely enough to build an accurate elo ranking. 30th by 1970 was NOT my first claim neither this ranking which I MYSELF criticized as being dodgy was the first one I used, neither it was even in my first post. When Cruyff was in the league, only 2 different clubs reached UEFA Cup finals (Ajax 5 times, Feyenoord 1 time). So this argument makes no sense. In the same time, 4 different English clubs reached UEFA Cup finals, 4 different Italian clubs did so, 7 Spanish clubs did so, 8 German clubs did so, and 2 French clubs did so and 3 Scottish clubs did so. Again and again and again I MYSELF said that this ranking was dodgy, that's not a reason for you to ignore 3 other sources being your beloved UEFA ranking, and 2 elo rankings made by data analysts. I already asked you to tell me what flaws did clubelo have, you never answered me. "Everyone" cite me those people. I don't understand your logic, the Netherlands literally have less players playing abroad than the likes of NIGERIA and Uruguay (what an example ). Netherlands today according to a well-trained clubelo.com ranking is still the 7th best league in Europe, while most of the Dutch players play there. And it still is an unbalanced league with both PSV and Feyenoord being 140 Elo points ahead of the 3rd best team. Even Bundesliga whose popularly known as being a farmers league, no clubs are that far away. Even when taking the ranking you seem to talk about where the Netherlands are 8th, they're behind Argentina, who also had a golden generation the 1970s, so according to your logic they would be a better league when that's not what you said earlier.
Really funny indeed to see that when something suits you, you say "it has been proven by actual scientists" but when TWO different elo ratings, that don't suit your claim, made by people whose job is actually to make those analyzes, it's "inane and bordering on the evil".
What's more you use that source to say Netherlands was top 5 leagues in the world because rn when the national team's bad Netherlands still export many good players, but when it's Brasil who's literally topping (by far) the chart with a 100x less stacked national team than ever you don't consider the source. Funny how you change your standards.
Most Assists (Opta+Non-Opta) Pelé: 487 Messi: 458 Cruyff: 458 Puskás: 440 Team's Goals Assisted (Removing the player's goals from the team's goals) Pelé: 37.61% Maradona: 35.63% Cruyff: 33.23% Messi: 31.12% Puskás: 29.29% Zico: 28.97% Goals and Assists relative to team's goals (This time, to calculate Assist%, I don't remove the player's goals from the team's total goals. The same logic with Goal%, it's just goals/team goals) and my Rating is the multiplication of both values (Goal%*Assist%) Best ten years period
penalties suffered ???? you count as an assist ??? really ??? is wrong on my view indirect assist as Diego Maradona to Careca against Parma ...is okay !
Direct Assists ... Indirect Assists .... Direct Pre-Assists .....Indirect Pre-Assists ... is okay using the same criteria to everyone Players on the World but penalties suffered are key plays ...not pure assists .. !!! well ... as it is not Official by Fifa so no problems ..
Where "direct pre-assists" and indirect pre-assist compare to winning a PK? a PK won worth 0.76 of goal on average, that is more than basically all open play assists value, let alone a pre-assist.
How many direct assists has Maradona ???? How many indirect assists has Maradona ??? How many Pre-assists ( and indirect pre-assists too ) has Maradona ??? How many penalties suffered ???? has Maradona ??? and How many direct assists has Ronaldinho Gaucho???? How many indirect assists has Ronaldinho ??? How many Pre-assists ( and indirect pre-assists too ) has Ronaldinho ??? How many penalties suffered ???? has Ronaldinho ???