Glowienka released

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  1. Dan R

    Dan R New Member

    Jun 1, 1997
    Metro
    Waiver Wire: The MetroStars announced that they released defender Tim Glowienka. Glowienka was drafted out of the University of South Carolina in the third round of the 2003 MLS SuperDraft, and did not see any time over the team’s first eight games of the 2003 season.

    Which (in theory) means that we have a roster spot open. Add that to the 280K that might be cleared if Timmy leaves and the need for a striker... Who knows?
     
  2. Speedball

    Speedball Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Harrison Stadium
    Far be it for me to question the Stat Boy's calculations but, if/when we get a new goalkeeper wouldn't we need to pay him as well? Subtract 100K - 200K for our new keeper and it doesn't leave much.

    BTW - Cutting a Glowineka before he steps foot on the field ... so much for Bob's drafting skills. Fire Bradley now! ;)
     
  3. Dan R

    Dan R New Member

    Jun 1, 1997
    Metro
    Re: Re: Glowienka released

    Say Walker is 120K... (No clue if he is or if we're signing him, but that number makes sense) That leaves 160K from Howard plus Glowienka's slot which is 24K so that's 184K... Which might just be enough for a solid player, considering how many of them are out of contract in Europe right now.
     
  4. Speedball

    Speedball Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Harrison Stadium
    Re: Re: Re: Glowienka released

    That's about how I figure it for Walker. Cannon would most likely cost more but we would gain some extra cap space based upon whatever compensation San Jose would get (Lisi and a draft pick??). The way you intially wrote it, it looked like we would have about 300K free to spend on a striker.
     
  5. Olesh

    Olesh Member

    Jul 24, 1999
    South Bay
    Well, If we get an allocation for Howard, and presumably whatever striker we would sign would be available on a free transfer, MLS has been allowing teams to use allocations towards player salaries. So depending upon whether it would be a major or minor allocation (I assume it would be major due to the amount of cash MLS would net), we could put either $75k or $150k towards the player's salary for this season. As a result, we could probably afford Walker at $120k and a new striker at around league max.

    The precedent has been set with DC using it on Stewart I believe.
     
  6. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    I don't see how this could possibly NOT be a major allocation.
     
  7. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    The timing of this is interesting. Could there be a blockbuster trade coming up? Say the Quakes trading some players PLUS the rights to Joe Cannon to the Metros?
     
  8. Ellison

    Ellison Member

    Jan 11, 2000
    New Jersey
    like who? who exactly do you think the Metro would give up? Are you as delusional as your team's GM in asking for Ricardo Clark? I just don't see anyone beside Moreno that could be used as trade bait? Anyone have other ideas? (Only because the team is winning without him, not really advocating a Moreno trade, I just don't see any spare parts.)
     
  9. OriginalAEK

    OriginalAEK New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Syracuse, NY
    I wouldn't mind seeing Moreno get traded. He was useless on the field and is still useless by not playing and we are doing just fine thank you without him. Moreno for J. Cannon's rights? Plus some cash? Maybe. We'll just have to wait and see....i wouldn't mind another striker that can score either.
     
  10. NJPsycho

    NJPsycho New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Dirty Jerzee
    Metros can't trade an injured Moreno right now. We're stuck with him until he's able to play.
    Sound familiar?
    It wouldn't be a Metro season without a blockbuster trade!
     
  11. OriginalAEK

    OriginalAEK New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Syracuse, NY
    WAY TOO familiar!
     
  12. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    I really don't know. It is interesting that Soccer America is reporting that 2 Spanish League teams are inquiring about Richard Mulrooney right now. Clark would be the perfect replacement, but I don't see Bradley doing ANY kind of deal for Ricardo. Bob built his Fire team around Armas and I think he sees the need for a strong D-mid for the Metros.

    If it were a player plus Cannon's rights for Clark, then Clark's P-40 status would explain why Glowienka was released. I know that's a reach, just another Big Soccer theory. ;)
     
  13. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    No, its not a BigSoccer theory, its called your incoherent and vague ramblings.
     
  14. elephantstone

    elephantstone Member

    Feb 12, 2001
    Harrisburg, PA
    No matter how far-fetched, every mention of trading Rico "Future of the Metros" Clark makes my stomach turn.
     
  15. OriginalAEK

    OriginalAEK New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Syracuse, NY
    Why do i get this feeling that something stupid might happen?
     
  16. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Bradley is in charge now, stupidty will only reign if MLS comes along to "right" our ship.
     
  17. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Jeez, you're no fun!

    Question: Why do you release a rostered player?

    Answer: Because you are anticipating adding someone in his place.

    Sooo.......why now? And who is the replacement? Perhaps Bradley has lined up the allocation already? He adds Walker and the new guy at the same time?
     
  18. Speedball

    Speedball Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Harrison Stadium
    Question: Why do you release a rostered player?

    Answer: Because he realized that he wasn't fitting in, was only making 24K a year and asked to be released to begin his life after soccer.

    Just another "BigSoccer theory" that's as plausible as yours. As of now, nobody knows so we might as well shut-up and wait until something is announced.
     
  19. Roehl Sybing

    Roehl Sybing Guest

    I think it's obvious.

    This is a prelude to grabbing David Beckham.
     
  20. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca

    I admit my theory was more of a longshot then your's, but you have two big holes in your's.

    #1 If you release a rostered player, you eat his salary. So unless Tim was an "attitude problem", it doesn't make sense to let him go for no other reason then "he wanted to begin life after soccer". You release him in the offseason in that case.

    #2 It makes no sense to only carry 17 on the "hard" roster in this league. With injuries, national team call ups, ect. you need every healthy body you can get.

    I can shut up until something is announced, but something WAS announced. Glowienka was released. This has implications of another action to follow.
     
  21. Dan R

    Dan R New Member

    Jun 1, 1997
    Metro
    Not if you release him before contracts are guaranteed for the rest of the year, and they're not yet.
     
  22. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its clearly a move thats a prelude to adding another player on top of replacing Howard. There is no other reason to release Gloweinka now. The only question is who that player is, and where does that player come from.

    Midfield depth you guys seem fine. At forward you could use another player. The other area I think you could use another player is in defense, because with pope going down it seems like that position is pretty thin (and you just cut a defender).

    Walker wont nescessarily come cheap. I think the Quakes offered him 100k iirc and he walked away from that. The allocation can be converted to cash for signing purposes however, so you may still have close to max to offer to another player on top of the allocation. The fire are reportedly using their allocation for money to sign a polish midfielder whos been playing in England.

    Seems to me that there are a lot of ways this thing can go depending on what Bradley wants from his team, it will be interesting to see how things pan out.
     
  23. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Ahh...so maybe this was a money saving move perhaps?

    Where was Glowienka projected to play? Right back or center? Because now that Pope is out with an injury, doesn't that make your backline a bit thin?
     
  24. Haig

    Haig Member+

    May 14, 2000
    METROSTARS
    Club:
    --other--
    The Metros play three in the back, basically. So they still have Jolley, Regan, Arena, Addo, Forchetti, Leitch, and Ziadie. Not really stocked with experienced players, but Glowienka wasn't helping with that.
     
  25. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Yeah, that's true. Addo's name hasn't been mentioned much. I expect he might play a big role with Pope out.
     

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