NSR: Give me your rested, your rich, privileged White Colombians yearning to post in soccer forums...

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by dapip, Oct 18, 2018.

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My parents/grandparents/great great great grandparents arrived:

  1. They were here when Columbus got lost and hit America

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  2. They arrived in the Mayflower

    2 vote(s)
    8.3%
  3. They came shackled and got to work in plantations at the sound of a whip

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. They arrived through Ellis Island between 1830 and 1950

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  5. They came here as a result of _______________ crisis

    9 vote(s)
    37.5%
  6. I'm the first one to move here from my country.

    7 vote(s)
    29.2%
  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  2. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why would I liesten to a convicted felon?
     
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  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--

    More intelligent conversation.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Because as he points out in the video he was targeted and the only one put into prison under the same rules that leftists did not go to prison for.
    It is similar to listening to people in Cuba who were thrown into prison when telling truths against Castro.
     
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Because you can't stand the truth he is exposing.
     
  6. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    If by truth you mean complete falsehoods...

    War is peace...
     
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  7. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Sounds like a typical criminal making excuses cause he got caught. Like I said the guy is a felon no need to liesten to him.
     
  8. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    IT may sound like it until you hear and read about the facts of his trial and the aftermath.
     
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  9. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Next we’ll learn Homie is also a fan of Alex Jones...
     
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  10. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The one that he pleaded guilty? He is a convicted felon a common criminal.
     
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  11. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Okay so this went on much more than I expected but I'll just try to pick this up from where we are...I need a drink.
     
  12. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Um I don't know how to tell you this but AJ is NOT a reliable source; they're known infamously for being biased towards left wing liberal and being very Palsentian biased as well (But that latter is for another discussion).
     
  13. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Seriously?

    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/6210...y-separation-and-zero-tolerance-at-the-border

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/how-children-live-inside-cramped-immigration-detention-centers/

    http://time.com/5314826/border-patrol-cages-mcallen-immigration-facility/
     
  14. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    Fox went full on anti Latino today.
     
  15. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    That’s no dog whistle, more like a foghorn...
     
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  16. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Do you think a 2 year olds should defend themselves in court how about 5 years olds?
     
  17. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Time and NPR are also left biased and the New York Post is known infamously for propaganda everything with various controversies...but I digest because I think the main issue here is that you're taking the information here out of context; these sites actually tell more than what you're led to initially believe. want to share videos of how it looks inside and giving you full consistent ....not only that this hardly represents how things are actually done in long term. The images and videos of this "center" you see is only the holding detention center for processing just as various facilities for illegals. Not only that you notice that these images and videos don't seem to show what goes on inside the tents and how the children themselves actually lead.

    The reason why I say this is because you can see children and adults together where they're being processed and yet you then see children in an area with tented homes. So this whole "Children in cages" propaganda is obviously BS when you consider that they're not separated from adults (their families) and are generally all there for processing. They're all within that closure no different than anyone else. And most importantly, a temporary holding area.



    When the actual children are separated, they're sent to various shelters like the tent camps and some children actually get sent to better places for shelters:




    Ironically, despite what the media sources are with showing what goes on, they still try to act as if these children are being treated poorly and inhumanely especially with social media calling these concentration camps. Yet iconically these kids are being treated way better than what people would typically be.

    Hell these kids are living better (temporary) lives at the moment until the faith of their parents comes around and affects them.


    The problem with these claims and what you're doing is that you're trying make us believe that these children are doing terribly. Yes separating families and children is a very terrible experience but it's the same when someone in the US commits a crime of any and has children; children are separated and placed in temporary care.
     
  18. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Defend themselves from what exactly in court? This is no different than if people in the US, citizens mind you, were separated from their children after committing a crime and the children had to be taken care of because they're too young to do that for themselves and require adult support. The only difference is that because these aren't citizens is that we handle this differently since they're not legal residents but we can't throw them out in the street. Would you have rather we left the children on their own while we're detaining their parents and processing them? This isn't cut and dry dude.
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Talking points are strong with this one!!! Trump has taught you well....
     
  20. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    You haven't answered my question: if the parents are being arrested after coming illegally especially with the zero-tolerance policy, WOULD YOU LET THESE CHILDREN ALONE IN THE STREETS OR TAKE OF THEM IN SHELTERS?

     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah I know, Fake News!!!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...immigrant-toddlers-appear-court-alone-n887356

    The children being detained under the new “zero tolerance” policy, though, are facing immigration proceedings without mom or dad by their side.
     
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  22. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  23. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  24. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    First I would not separate them from their families, like it was done until 2017. Then your question is just a false choice to defend despicable policies put in place by this administration.
     
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  25. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Zero tolerance policy, that was loud and clear and the families still took the risk. I am sorry but if I get 20 years in jail for coming to Mexico illegally then I say that their culture is hypocritical with that law.


    Edit:

    Found the video.



    I must admit because even I don't find this right, this isn't right. While I agree and stand by my view on illegal immigration, I do not agree with this particular practice.


    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


    Children are at least better off being defended in trial with their families for their case even if they're illegal. It's only decency if they're being cared for in shelters.
     

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