Giovanni “Gio” Reyna US National Team Discussion

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by gogorath, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From that article posted above: "What got in the way was everything around the talent. The politics, the entitlement, a soft culture that taught a generation of gifted American kids the game was about how you were managed, whether the coach was shielding you or settling a score."

    No mention of Reyna's significant and frequent injuries over the past 4 years. Heck, he went into 2022 world cup recovering from an injury. Not mentioning the injury history is brain dead, imho.
     
  2. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having Gio start would illustrate the "Peter Principle". He is like a "relief pitcher" in baseball who is not physically able to succeed as a "starter". He is excellent as a sub, and he should stay the course.
     
  3. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you explained it perfectly by saying you did it from a very young age. I think the longer you wait the harder it is because it's so different than everything else you do with the ball.
     
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  4. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    An interesting detail from The Long Game is that Adams's family did struggle economically, until his mom got remarried. . . to a soccer coach.
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was already in the Red Bulls Regional Development School program. Maybe that was where his mom met his stepdad.
     
  6. Kirium

    Kirium Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK
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  7. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BOO!!!
    :laugh:
     
  8. radjedi

    radjedi Member

    Jun 13, 2014
    USMNT
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know it's a joke, but I've thought to myself more than once how interesting the role genetics probably plays here. Claudio IIRC had a recurring hamstring injury in his UVA days that kept him out of being named for the 1994 WC, and Gio's had similar problems with his hamstring.
     
  9. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    There is some truth there, for sure. Genetics play a big role
     
  10. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree he doesn’t likely have 90 in him. But that doesn’t necessarily mean he can’t start, just that he can’t go a whole game. Against Canada in the 2023 CNL when he was excellent, he started and then was subbed at the half.
     
  11. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gio has started plenty of games for us and always been amongst our best players on the pitch…

    Gregg not playing him in ‘22 better illustrates the Peter Principle.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Always" is an exaggeration.
     
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  13. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope.
     
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  14. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Outside or inside of the foot. They are equally easy.
     
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  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Not at all always.

    And he very clearly was hurt in 2022.

    The reason why this discussion never dies is the bizarre attempt to rewrite history in order to make Berhalter look worse.

    It's been four years, we're in the middle of a new World Cup, and so many of you are still obsessed. It's ********ing weird. Are you going to be here for decades like HHF with Klinsmann?

    You're normally a good poster if prone to exaggeration to make a point, but good lord.
     
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  16. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You telling me I’m prone to exaggeration? Rich. Talk about rewriting history, Reyna was able to play in 22, I didn’t say start or go 90.

    Reyna always amongst our best players when played, always. full stop. Has he had shit games? Absolutely and the team played like shit and he’s still one of the better players, ALWAYS.

    I’ll continue to discuss Bora, Sampson, Arena, Robobob, Klinnsy, 3G and my lord and savior Mauricio anytime in a USMNT space.

    (all in good fun for the bants if that’s not crystal clear :))

    Edit: I am absolutely prone to hyperbole, guilty as charged.
     
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  17. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    ;)

    The guy was slow in his 45 minutes a couple weeks into the World Cup. He apparently refused to take a fitness test earlier when the team realized he didn't run at all in the scrimmage.

    It's either one of two things: either he's such a baby he was whining because he wasn't going to start, or, what is 10x more likely is that he was hiding an injury because he really, really wanted to play.

    He didn't play much at club before. He didn't play much at club after.

    He very clearly was not one of our best players for Senegal, Germany or, even with the goal, Paraguay, unless most players were one of our best players.

    He's one of our most skilled players at all time. Probably our best passer. But he's not always been great for us, and he's not always been one of our best players unless you mean 10 best of 11 on the field.

    I generally find your POV interesting; that's the only reason I said anything. I don't even bother with certain people and their clear axes to grind.
     
  18. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    I love that we're rehashing the 4-year-old Reyna-Berhalter drama 2 hours prior to kickoff of a massive World Cup game.
     
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  19. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's like the dog that tangled with a skunk: it's smelled a long time afterward.
     
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  20. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lalas has the most punchable face in recorded history. It’s so smug and ginormously ginger.

    Opps… I’m leaving it lol.
     
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  21. KickballWizard

    KickballWizard Member+

    Jun 11, 2013
    If he's gonna start a game during this WC, it's against Turkey.
     
  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Correct.

    Claudio Reyna was in fact injured during the 1994 World Cup but I recall seeing him suited up and on the team.

    I was sitting with the players and coach Bora Milutinović brother Miloš across from Stanford Stadium right before the USA vs. Brazil match on July 4th, 1994 and Claudio had his cleat unlaced.

    He wanted to play desperately but Bora would not let him out of fear of risking further injury.
     
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  23. Blustar

    Blustar Member

    Inter Miami, Miami FC
    United States
    May 30, 2006
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don’t you think in a game situation that using the outside of the foot to score a goal is much rarer than kick it normally? First of all a situation where it’s a better shot is very situational, but more importantly is the fact that you lose a lot of velocity. So you are going for precision, deception, and surprise, most of the times a combination of all these factors.
    Of it was so easy, why don’t we see it more often. It takes a cultured shot to be successful. In a game situation with very little time on the ball, under pressure, and you basically need a perfect strike to curl it around the keeper. One inch to the right and it’s an easy save, to the left it hits the post, not enough curl and flat, easy save.

    Anyone can do it in practice or when your in your backyard with your dad, kicking a ball like that with professionals opposing you, and the pressure of a World Cup, that’s impressive.

    It’s like saying I could shoot by bicycle kicks all day in my backyard. It is not a serious argument.
    That was a classy strike by Gio, it took composure, situational awareness that it would work, then the skill to put the perfect spin and pace on the ball. You guys are freakin crazy if you think anyone and everyone, especially on our team, could pull it off.
     
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  24. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
  25. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Gio 2+ G/A vs Turkey is +1000 right now.
     

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