Giovanni “Gio” Reyna US National Team Discussion

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  1. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope……. Hope Parma is still high as a kite in our guy., delightful loan if possible
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reyna top speed

    2020/21 32.57
    2021/22 33.88
    2022/23 32.06
    2023/24 -
    2024/25 31.02
    2025/26 30.7

    Scally hit 35.24 in 24/25 and Campbell > 36
     
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  4. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t think there’s any question he’s lost something physically. It is what it is. He’s never going to realize the potential we thought he may but that doesn’t mean he won’t contribute at the World Cup.
     
  5. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about Tillman?
     
  6. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    32.72 this season
     
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  7. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, but Spain's "non-star wingers" would easily be our star players. Their team is loaded with very high quality players. If they absolutely need their future Ballon d'Or winner to start in order to beat a team like Cabo Verde, then they will go nowhere this WC.
     
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  8. Ace08

    Ace08 Member

    May 30, 2010
    Club:
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    I know they are displaying it as a 4 man backline, but a lineup that contains Ream-Richards-Freeman is in essence a 3 man backline with Jedi pushing up the pitch in possession.

    With a 3 man backline it's very difficult to find a starting spot for Gio. You're basically subbing out the central attacking mid position that Gio would have played for that extra center back.

    I'm Gio's biggest fan and defended him even during the GB debacle....but in Poch's system he's going to be a second half super sub. It just is what it is. He's going to have a big part to play in how far we go in this tournament because his quality on the ball will become more and more needed as the competition level ramps up.

    He is one of those guys whose club situation is pretty much irrelevant. Something happens to that kid when he puts on the US jersey and all of that potential starts to realize.
     
  9. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though they started at winger Gavi on one side who is a great player but not really a winger. Their 9 is also not particularly special.

    They still should have won but this team is very dependent on Yamal in the final third. Which is generally fine because he’s very good.

    See also https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7364313/2026/06/15/spain-cape-verde-world-cup-yamal-williams/

    This is not unique internationally either. England for instance while having lots of very good players is also very Harry Kane dependent.
     
  10. MayaDempsey

    MayaDempsey Member+

    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Hahahahahahaha
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Cape Verde result backs up the premise that anything can happen over 90 minutes. People tend to read so much into one result.
     
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  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    This is going to sound kind of stupidly obvious, but there's really just two advantageous the big teams have on everyone else: strong depth and truly elite talent.

    That sounds like it pretty much covers everything, and I suppose it does, but it's always pretty clear when the top teams don't have any major weaknesses ... but lack the elite player to put them over the top.

    If you're goal is winning the World Cup, unless you are '50s Brazil, you need your best player(s).
     
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  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the thing is even the elite teams the talent isn’t always well distributed positionally. They can have a ton of talent in one spot but still have weaknesses elsewhere.

    Spain being an example where they have more midfielders than you can ask for example but lacking at the 9 position.

    Same reason Tuchel left off some really good players on England cause not like it made sense to take 5 number 10s to the World Cup.

    It’s also true there’s only a handful of elite guys total at the level of a Yamal and that’s not really replaceable for any team.
     
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  14. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    Yeah, and part of that is the standards they have -- truly elite 9s are simply hard to find. It's not like Spain's 9s would be seen as mediocre or poor for the US. But someone at the level of Kane or Yamal or Messi or whomever makes a massive difference.

    There's really no team that can afford to lose one of those guys except maybe France.
     
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  15. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, top teams can't afford to lose their best player and still expect to WIN the World Cup. But they should expect to be able to beat the worst team (on paper, anyway) in their group, and one of the worst overall in the tournament. The better team doesn't always win, but the disparity between Spain and Cabo Verde should mean that Spain trounces them easily, with or without their top one or two players in the starting lineup.
     
  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    It's obviously an upset, but I will quibble with this phrase.

    If you have a at least a decent level of talent, and you play a very disciplined, compact, low block and don't take risks, there isn't a team on the planet who has an easy time scoring on you, much less trounces, which I would imagine is at least 3-0.

    That's not to say that even, on average, will you hold them scoreless. Or that you won't give up an early goal or two and it all goes downhill. But 10 players plus a keeper in a penalty box is a really crowded place.

    I think from Spain's POV, having their two best scorers off the field, including a Ballon D'or candidate ... those are the type of players who make individual plays to break those things and open up the game.

    It was a great job by Cabo Verde, for sure.

    I mean, I think we see it on a different level with our team. We have a lot of improvements since 2022 and our midfield is our strength, I think ... but the single biggest individual player difference over the cycle has been Balogun, and it's not really close. We simply have a much more dynamic attack with him than without.

    If Christian doesn't play against Australia, I think we'll see a similar drop off.
     
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  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like England's left-back problem.
     
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  18. Kirium

    Kirium Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Edmond, OK
    Makes you wonder if they wish they had Jedi
     
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  19. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The thing is Spain did dominate the game by any measure. It’s just very hard to score on a team playing a well organized lower block. We see that with top teams all the time and it’s where the difference makers like Yamal come into play.

    We certainly struggle against low blocks in CONCACAF all the time versus teams where’s there’s a very clear talent difference.
     
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  20. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He would have definitely gotten opportunities with them over the years.
     
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  21. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #10171 TheHoustonHoyaFan, Jun 16, 2026
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2026
    Malik IIRC had been clocked at 34 change kph in UCL in the 24 to 25 season.

    The focus on Gio's top speed measurements is a bit misplaced; A player typically requires 30+ meters to reach top speed during a match and for many players the game states just don't give them many opportunities to get close to top speed.

    If you look at the numbers, players like Gio, Malik, Wirtz, Musiala, Olise, Diaz, ... are all in the same 33 kph to 34 kph band as far as top speed during match. None of them are burners, in the BuLi you have to be > 36 kph to be considered fast.

    Where Gio falls far short is in work-rate; In addition to the 33+kph those players will give you 20+ sprints and 60+ intensive runs per match, well 80+ if you are Wirtz. Gio even when he was a regular starter gives you a third of those top AMs.
     
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  22. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We do struggle against low blocks in CONCACAF, but those games are generally played on bad fields against teams allowed to play very dirty by our refs.
     
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  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure but you’ll it happen even in the top leagues in Europe from time to time.
     
  24. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    theres a direct correlation between people who cite reynas speed as a disqualifying factor and dismissing reams as irrelevant
     
  25. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Both are issues but i agree the bigger challenge has been basically time sprinting or number of sprints
     

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